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    2 days ago

    Pretty political for a non political post

    And yea it’s a political subject, whether you like it or not

    Especially saying it isn’t political is a political opinion

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      15 hours ago

      It wasn’t political until you complained about it being political.

      Now it’s political because commentary about whether something is political or not is an inherently political topic.

      How about this: your dick size is pretty political for its size. And yeah it’s a political subject, whether you like it or not. Especially saying it isn’t political is a political opinion.

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        15 hours ago

        your sentence doesn’t make sense, there must be reasoning or point of views for it to be political, and it should fit some definitions

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              Shame is an unproductive and self-serving vice that doesn’t absolve you of any responsibility to be more well informed before politicizing something you shouldn’t have.

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                For people who have grown up under fundamentalist religion or abusive families, this definition of shame is very narrow. Often times, shame isn’t a vice that you hold onto for an excuse, it’s something that you were told you should feel for so long.

                I don’t feel shame for being bisexual anymore or for thinking “filthy” and “sinful” thoughts but for years and years I did.

                I know this is not related to the previous thread but I just wanted to point out that shame can sometimes be something placed on us, even if we don’t want to believe it.

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                and I guess that must be the reason why you’re trying to public shame me? Lol.

                Just make your argument logical and then we’ll talk. Who the fuck even are you to tell me what should be politicized or not?

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      Yeah! Also, there’s all these women working outside the home in comics on here! It’s ridiculous!

      I saw a black pilot in a comic! All these politics are ruining my good clean fun!

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        15 hours ago

        Sure, political subjects as well, but not debated in democratic societies as the overwhelming majority agrees that it’s normal

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          What is adding doom and gloom? That’s the metric that really matters here. According to the sub, anyway. I do enjoy a technical definition conversation, and with the majority thing you’ve probably hit on a workable metric for a sub more interested in bridging a divide.

          However, this sub seems to be more about “Hey, we just don’t wanna feel bad about current events while reading these, okay?” It seems that a mere reference to a trans person does not make most people feel bad. And that actually correlates with polls of the general population.

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      On the contrary, saying it’s political is a political opinion.

      There’s nothing political about the original post, whether you like it or not. You’re politicizing it by claiming it’s political.

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        Nope. The issue of trans people has basically always been political in my lifetime. I am not saying it should be political, or that it will always be considered political, but to say it isn’t political right now is ignoring the reality and is dismissing the real issues faced by transgender people. You can’t change reality by making statements because reality is not performative. The way the world works does not revolve around what you say or what you think.

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          Imagine defending trans erasure simply because you believe it’s performative to depict them in a non-political light.

          If the comic depicted people protesting with signs demanding trans rights, or a doctor saying “I’m sorry but due to the new regulations I cannot prescribe HRT,” then yeah that would have political undertones. If it depicted a dude in a red hat saying “gender is binary and assigned at birth” then that would also be political.

          But this is just a kid coming out to their parents, and the parents are only concerned with what that means for their bet; implying that they accept the kid’s chosen gender. If that’s political, then so is parents accepting a kid’s decision to study art in college, because some people make education a political topic.

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          If someone doesn’t like your car, and they petition congress to outlaw the make and model, they’ve politicized a non-issue.

          If you tell them it’s none of their business, you’re not being political. It’s not making it political to tell them it isn’t political.

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            I would argue it does and there are a lot of examples of this… Tesla maybe? Boycotts are political and acting like they aren’t is a political stance

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              It’s more like Musk made himself a political figure when he tampered with elections, bribed voters, did a roman salute at a maga convention, and then hired a bunch of twenty-year-olds to hack into every government agency and steal their data for his AI company [edit: while dismantling the services they provide and laying off the majority of their workforce].

              His assets, including tesla, are simply collateral. Unless you include all the government subsidies he’s getting from this quid-pro-quo; those are certainly political.

              A person’s personal choice, such as what car to drive or what gender to present as, is not political, and not even remotely comparable.

              Are human rights political, simply because they’re enshrined in government documents? If so, then I guess we can’t have any depictions life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness either.

              Are women political because they’ve had to fight to have the same rights as men? If so, then I guess we can’t depict women.

              Are you the type who believes Obama “brought race into politics” simply by… being black and in politics?

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                A person’s personal choice, such as what car to drive or what gender to present as, is not political, and not even remotely comparable.

                It very well is though, but unrelated to the subject

                Are human rights political, simply because they’re enshrined in government documents? If so, then I guess we can’t have any depictions life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness either.

                Human rights, subjects like freedom and stuff ARE political. The comic depicting some situations might not be even though they’re feature, depending on the angle that is taken. The same comic in a situation where there’s less freedom would not have been political had it not made reference to the debated topic or freedom.

                Also, the ‘political’ stuff I’m talking about is more ‘heated’ subjects. Everything can be political, it’s just a scale though, and I would say for this comic that the threshold has been exceeded.

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          It costs you nothing not to leave your comment. I find it hard to believe someone else was out there waiting to comment how not political this comic was.

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            So you prefer only having one voice and one political side, and not know other people outside of Lemmy might not think the same? I should be silenced because I’m giving a voice to the minority?

            I know it’s hard to accept that not everyone thinks the same as you, and not everyone is on the political left (because Lemmy is predominantly left-wing) and not everyone accepts the new norms of gender and sexual orientations. Sadly, understanding this is key to society and living with each other in peace.

            I’m not giving an opinion, just saying that this subject is objectively political.

            It costs you nothing to leave it as it is, accept it, and move on with your day, but you’re actively fighting with freedom of speech.

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              You’re missing this point by the widest margin possible, yo. You are the only one here bringing politics of any kind. No one was waiting with utter glee to say how not political this comic was.

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                Because lemmy is filled with people that wish to believe there wasn’t any debate, or who already are okay with the gender question, which is cool, but it doesn’t represent the reality. That’s exactly what I said: it’s just that the current lemmy community isn’t really that representative, but acting like this isn’t a political subject in pretty much every country is ignorance

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        You probably know as much as me that everything related to gender and sexuality is a political subject these days, whichever side you’re on and whatever your beliefs are

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          If literally everything related to gender were political you couldn’t show any humans in a comic without it being political. This comic treats a nominally political topic in a non political way. It only flags as being political because it’s in the current zeitgeist. Interracial couples used to be a hot button political issue as well and that doesn’t read as political anymore.

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            Everything is political, the important thing is where to draw the line. It’s all nuanced.

            This comic treats a nominally political topic in a non political way.

            It does when the comic implies being MtF classifies as “girl” in the bet

            And yea, what is political (or rather, how much) changes with time and the current opinions on people. That’s exactly what I’m saying, this comic would probably not be political in a few dozen years, when (hopefully imo) the large majority of people stop being offended by social progress

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              Oh look at me miss “I want to have the right to exist as a person”, so deeply political, such politics.

              Your instance have “free” as in “freedom” in it, a totaly apolitical concept, of course.

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                Oh look at me miss “I want to have the right to exist as a person”, so deeply political, such politics.

                No need to play dumb. The subject is not about the person, but the acts. Just like pedophiles can say “I want to have the right to exist as a person” and suddenly is political. You’re purposely excluding the context.

                And apart from that, the rights aren’t even debated here, the political subject i’m pointing towards is whether a MtF can be considered “girl” when the initial situation was obviously talking about sex at birth, not gender.

                Your instance have “free” as in “freedom” in it, a totaly apolitical concept, of course.

                And it is political in that way, yes. Does it matter to the subject? No. What I’m saying is that your instance’s political opinion is directly the one that is discussed in this topic.