My favorite part is where they continue to argue with my banned ass, knowing full well I can’t respond. The only way to win for them, I suppose.

Edit: Looks like there was some confusion regarding cross-posting in the original link so I’ll just put the Modlog link here that displays the removed comment and ban, with the thread itself linked here. I’d rather add than change for the sake of the post’s integrity and preventing confusion.

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    What would you think of someone who said there was no evidence of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza?

    What would you think of someone who regularly defended a country that supports foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist Hitler and Mussolini supporting intellectuals?

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      What would you think of someone who said there was no evidence of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza?

      That depends, is there evidence of these things and they’re contradicting that evidence? Even Wikipedia, one of the most lib sources of all, does not have an article for Uyghur genocide. Armenian genocide? Check. Gaza genocide? Check. Uyghurs? Persecution of Uyghurs in China. This isn’t a good thing, mind you, but there’s a qualitative difference between persecution and genocide.

      Also, if you’re in the west and examining Uyghur persecution in China more than Black persecution in the states or Romani persecution in Europe, it may be time to examine the plank in your eye before the speck in China’s.

      What would you think of someone who regularly defended a country that supports foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist Hitler and Mussolini supporting intellectuals?

      Ah, the old double genocide theory (about 30 years old, in fact). Look that one up on Wikipedia too while you’re at it. Good little bedtime story for Nazi collaborators.

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        I notice you prefered to avoid answering my question about foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals, intellectuals who openly admired Hitler and Mussolini. Instead you brought up the double genocide, which wasn’t relevant to my question.

        Why do you think it is that you’d rather not answer a question about leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals and the countries that support them?

        What would you think if someone tried to change the topic when you asked them a question related to polticians quoting fascist intellectuals?

        Where would you think their political affiliations lie?

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          https://lemmy.ml/post/41654379/23321470

          Here’s a link to my reply to you from 30 minutes ago which addresses every point you bring up here. I’ll copy the relevant parts below.

          I notice you prefered to avoid answering my question about foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals, intellectuals who openly admired Hitler and Mussolini.

          Why do you think it is that you’d rather not answer a question about leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals and the countries that support them?

          What would you think if someone tried to change the topic when you asked them a question related to polticians quoting fascist intellectuals?

          Even if we accept whatever you’re trying to say here completely at face value, is your stance that someone who says “this specific claim about China is not supported by credible evidence” has to then answer for every single thing any leader in any country ever supported in any way by China has said?

          Instead you brought up the double genocide, which wasn’t relevant to my question.

          What would you think of someone who said there was no evidence of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza?

          Yes, you’re correct that if there was an overwhelming amount of credible evidence from an almost uncountable number of sources (including the people committing genocide bragging about it) it would be different.

          There’s no equivalence there. Treating these two things as equivalent minimizes (possibly even rises to the level of denying) the actual genocide.

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          I notice you prefered to avoid answering my question about foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist intellectuals, intellectuals who openly admired Hitler and Mussolini. Instead you brought up the double genocide, which wasn’t relevant to my question.

          Let’s see if that’s true. What were you referring to with leaders who quote fascist intellectuals, because my point in referencing double genocide was the “Red Fash” trope that libs refer to often, but there may have been a misunderstanding.

          What would you think if someone tried to change the topic when you asked them a question related to polticians quoting fascist intellectuals?

          You seem to have found this an intriguing point to hone in on, willingly ignoring the rest of the points I and others had mentioned as well. If we’re making such inferences, what does that infer about you?

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      What would you think of someone who said there was no evidence of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza?

      Yes, you’re correct that if there was an overwhelming amount of credible evidence from an almost uncountable number of sources (including the people committing genocide bragging about it) it would be different.

      There’s no equivalence there. Treating these two things as equivalent minimizes (possibly even rises to the level of denying) the actual genocide.

      What would you think of someone who regularly defended a country that supports foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist Hitler and Mussolini supporting intellectuals?

      Even if we accept whatever you’re trying to say here completely at face value, is your stance that someone who says “this specific claim about China is not supported by credible evidence” has to then answer for every single thing any leader in any country ever supported in any way by China has said?

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        Even if we accept whatever you’re trying to say here completely at face value

        What do you think I’m trying to say?

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          What do you think I’m trying to say?

          I have no idea because you chose to be vague instead of making specific claims about which country and leader China supported. Please stop making every sentence a rhetorical question, just say what you mean directly. Regardless, as I said, it’s not relevant. See the quoted paragraph below from my previous reply.

          is your stance that someone who says “this specific claim about China is not supported by credible evidence” has to then answer for every single thing any leader in any country ever supported in any way by China has said?

          If you're going to reply to this, please actually address the points I originally brought up (copied inside the spoiler) instead of dodging them.

          What would you think of someone who said there was no evidence of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza?

          Yes, you’re correct that if there was an overwhelming amount of credible evidence from an almost uncountable number of sources (including the people committing genocide bragging about it) it would be different.

          There’s no equivalence there. Treating these two things as equivalent minimizes (possibly even rises to the level of denying) the actual genocide.

          What would you think of someone who regularly defended a country that supports foreign leaders who regularly quote fascist Hitler and Mussolini supporting intellectuals?

          Even if we accept whatever you’re trying to say here completely at face value, is your stance that someone who says “this specific claim about China is not supported by credible evidence” has to then answer for every single thing any leader in any country ever supported in any way by China has said?

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      I’d think they were stupid because we have a shitload of actual physical evidence for what’s going on in Gaza, and absolutely fuck all for similar evidence in regard to China, fucking duh