The last two sentences are why, unfortunately, birth control will always be the primary purview of women.
No matter how good, convenient or easily usable birth control for men becomes, women are the ones who actually have to deal with the consequences of unintended pregnancy, and not using birth control yourself risks you having to deal with it when your partner either lies to you about using it, or simply makes a mistake and forgets to use it.
Men have to deal with women lying (edit and honest mistakes with forgetting) about being on birth control as well. Women have the physical consequences, but both parties suffer the lifetime consequences of having to care for a child if either lies.
Even if we had a reversable birth control for men that was readily available, I’d be shocked if women just blindly trusted the man that they were on it.
There’s a lot of trust going both ways and I imagine because of that both women and men would want to be on birth control until they trusted their partner sufficiently to make the decision for one or both to stop.
Edit: like I’ve never had a 1 night stand, and even if STDs didn’t exist, I’d never trust that she’s on birth control if she said she was, I’d still use a condom.
I also know one couple who had a kid because neither bothered to check with each other about birth control… no condoms, she wasn’t on it, he didn’t ask, and she got pregnant.
No matter how good, convenient or easily usable birth control for men becomes
This is a strange thing to say, considering that contraception has never been more effective, more convenient, or more easily usable for men, than for women.
An object you have to physically carry around with you and have on your person in the moment every single time you have sex, versus things like:
a pill that, while needing to take it daily, leaves you protected at all times, you don’t need it on hand at the time of the sexual encounter. And most pills aren’t even that strict about what time you take it each day, as long as it’s around the same time every day
a vaginal ring that only needs to be swapped out once a month (and can safely be removed for a few hours during sex itself without losing efficacy, if desired)
an injection that lasts 3 months
an arm implant that can last 5 years once inserted, depending on type
an IUD that can last for over a decade once inserted, depending on type
Condoms are far less convenient than any of these.
yeah but those birth control methods you suggest don’t additionally prevent the transmission of STI’s, which the condom does. so… still a pretty convenient option.
yeah but that’s a goalpost move because the topic is contraception, not STIs.
It’s also not even an argument, because there is no real “option” to compare condoms to re STIs at all, and the fact that they’re good for that takes nothing away from the main thing that makes them inconvenient, being “An object you have to physically carry around with you and have on your person in the moment every single time you have sex”.
i listed an additional positive trait of condoms while also being convenient. they’re easy to carry around and your “argument” is entirely subjective. get over it.
This is referencing ongoing research and efforts into developing male birth control, obviously. That’s why I wuite clearly wrote “becomes” and not “is”. That’s a fufure tense, so the current or past state of affairs isn’t exactly relevant, now is it ?
The last two sentences are why, unfortunately, birth control will always be the primary purview of women.
No matter how good, convenient or easily usable birth control for men becomes, women are the ones who actually have to deal with the consequences of unintended pregnancy, and not using birth control yourself risks you having to deal with it when your partner either lies to you about using it, or simply makes a mistake and forgets to use it.
Men have to deal with women lying (edit and honest mistakes with forgetting) about being on birth control as well. Women have the physical consequences, but both parties suffer the lifetime consequences of having to care for a child if either lies.
Even if we had a reversable birth control for men that was readily available, I’d be shocked if women just blindly trusted the man that they were on it.
There’s a lot of trust going both ways and I imagine because of that both women and men would want to be on birth control until they trusted their partner sufficiently to make the decision for one or both to stop.
Edit: like I’ve never had a 1 night stand, and even if STDs didn’t exist, I’d never trust that she’s on birth control if she said she was, I’d still use a condom.
I also know one couple who had a kid because neither bothered to check with each other about birth control… no condoms, she wasn’t on it, he didn’t ask, and she got pregnant.
Utterly baffling to me.
Those are similar to if not precisely the circumstances under which the majority of unplanned pregnancies happen, and nearly 46% of all pregnancies are unplanned.
Lots and lots of people are just horny idiots who are really bad at considering the potential long-term consequences of their short-term actions.
I… did not know it was that high, and the reason was that stupid.
Wow.
And these are the people who then have children.
Corrected to nearly 46%, with source. 🫠
This is a strange thing to say, considering that contraception has never been more effective, more convenient, or more easily usable for men, than for women.
condoms are super convenient, what?
An object you have to physically carry around with you and have on your person in the moment every single time you have sex, versus things like:
Condoms are far less convenient than any of these.
yeah but those birth control methods you suggest don’t additionally prevent the transmission of STI’s, which the condom does. so… still a pretty convenient option.
yeah but that’s a goalpost move because the topic is contraception, not STIs.
It’s also not even an argument, because there is no real “option” to compare condoms to re STIs at all, and the fact that they’re good for that takes nothing away from the main thing that makes them inconvenient, being “An object you have to physically carry around with you and have on your person in the moment every single time you have sex”.
i listed an additional positive trait of condoms while also being convenient. they’re easy to carry around and your “argument” is entirely subjective. get over it.
This is referencing ongoing research and efforts into developing male birth control, obviously. That’s why I wuite clearly wrote “becomes” and not “is”. That’s a fufure tense, so the current or past state of affairs isn’t exactly relevant, now is it ?