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ICE Out for Good vigils and rallies are being tracked online by Indivisible, the group behind the No Kings protests
More than a thousand protests are planned across the US this Saturday and Sunday after an ICE agent killed US citizen Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis this week.
“This weekend, people all over are coming together not just to mourn the lives lost to ICE violence, but to confront a pattern of harm that has torn families apart and terrorized our communities,” said Leah Greenberg, co-executive director of Indivisible, an organizer of “ICE Out for Good Weekend of Action”.
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Things are heating up. Melt the ICE
Good! Keep them going, come back every week, build momentum. This is the first step, don’t stop now. Motivate people by showing that you are here and you won’t let them get away with it. Gather into specific spots like you did for Occupy, block roads, unionize and organize yourselves.
won’t let them get away with it
Using what leverage?
At the very least, the pressure of seeing that the people, multiple dozens of millions of them, are so against tyranny that they are in the streets every week or every evening.
This will make cowards and wannabe turncoats stop sucking the dictator’s dick and start acting against him because they feel legitimate to do so and aren’t afraid to be alone against tyranny anymore.
If noone ever moves, noone will ever move. If you show your discontent only by being sarcastic on the internet and waiting for the democrats of all people to act, they know nobody will oppose them.
And the movement actually realizing, growing and staying will feed the movement itself and has a chance to make the protests evolve into something more too.
Americans will never learn this non-violent shit does nothing. They don’t care about your signs, your chants, dressing up like a frog, none of that is a threat to their existence. Until they feel threatened nothing will change. And that 3.5% non-violent protest bs is to keep everyone passive.
What do you propose? Go out and shoot a few ICE agents? They far outnumber and outgun those who are willing currently to protest violently. The opposition shooters would be crushed swiftly, and give the administration pretense to increase ICE funding/presence and push harder for military presence. Not to mention, it’d give them perfect ammo for their bullshit cannon about how “the left” are all violent lunatics (Good was a “domestic terrorist” according to them - can you imagine the “official” narrative if she actually had done something aggressive?!)
Half the voting population is still drinking the FOX news koolaid and think all the people getting detained/deported/murdered by ICE are actually murderers and rapists. Nonviolent protest raises awareness. No opposition will accomplish its goals if no one even knows there is a problem.
Non-violent action works if big enough because people will actually start to act if they see that enough other people are fed up and willing to move their asses.
One march every month isn’t sufficient though, they have to ramp up the movement, they have to claim public spaces and make themselves unavoidable.
Even if you count on violence to work. Apart from two people with nothing to lose, noone will move their asses to enact said violence if they feel alone. Knowing that 50 millions others are mobilized and not letting go behind them, on the other hand…
Oh no the events boo hoo. That will show those meanies. Lmao
1000 events that will accomplish nothing. Just like No Kings.
Nothing is going to happen to ICE or the self proclaimed president of Venezuela—Trump.
you first
Oh yes the “you need to literally forfeit your life attempting to start an armed revolution or you might as well do nothing” comment.
Well go ahead you first
Until this guy gets the revolution started everyone else keep up the protests and civil disobedience
There’s a lot between holding a sign and shooting a gun. The reason nothing will ever happen is because you refuse to see that.
I do like this doc, although I wish someone would update it to our cause. We need something geared to sabotaging ice and the right wing… but with an emphasis on safety and anonymity.
Frankly I can’t think of any movement or resitance in history that didn’t involve either a protest or violence at some point.
You refuse to accept that protesting builds movements to the point where they can create large action. Certainly was part of the civil rights movement.
I definently support the people actually going to and organizing protesters a whole lot more than someone bitching online that this isn’t enough. Go ahead be the change you want to see
The civil rights movement was successful because of the economic violence of the Montgomery bus boycott which went on for over a year. If they tried today’s method of a few hours on a random Saturday they would still be protesting.
I see zero momentum. There is absolutely no difference between an ice protest and no kings. It’s gonna be the same people. Probably fewer. Same end result—nothing.
You can be frank until you’re blue in the face, but that doesn’t change reality. You just cannot accept that this country is done, despite the overwhelming evidence.
And, when someone ruins your good vibes with reality—you lash out and clutch your useless picket sign! The tactics of the civil rights movement worked THEN. They will not work NOW.
Nothing can happen until the November election.
No Kings needs to organize and flip every red seat they can. It seems likely the House will flip. It’s POSSIBLE (but unlikely) the Senate will flip.
No kings is dead. No ICE (or whatever) is gonna last a month. By October, there will be some sort of gestapo set up to disrupt elections. The post office already removed incoming timestamps for one reason—mail in vote suppression.
The future is crystal clear—I dunno how you fools keep talking about “next election” like this is going to ever end.
Not sure what makes you think No Kings and 5051 are dead, they’re still going and will only get stronger as we get closer to election season.
There will be a next election because elections are run at the state and local levels, the feds can’t stop it even if they wanted to.
The tactics of the civil rights movement worked THEN. They will not work NOW.
General strikes and Civil disobedience won’t work now?
Kinda running out of options that don’t involve guns bud.
You just cannot accept that this country is done
Oh gotcha you’re just not even wanting to try anything at all. Thanks for clearing that up.
Again, you only see picket signs vs bullets.
I must not be willing to try ANYTHING because I disagree with you. Despite me saying otherwise this whole time.
Like I said, clutch you picket signs and block your ears.
Have the day you fought for 💋
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still, you first.
I’m leaving the country. Yall have fun.
excellent position between peaceful protest and bullets you chose there
I think it is. Because I know what is likely to happen…or, not happen.
Troll much? You can fuck off like ice!
Oh it will accomplish something everyone who attends gets put on a list, you will be rounded up eventually. Unless we arm ourselves America is over. Fuck it’s already done.
right, agreed, more or less.
