ICE Out for Good vigils and rallies are being tracked online by Indivisible, the group behind the No Kings protests

More than a thousand protests are planned across the US this Saturday and Sunday after an ICE agent killed US citizen Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis this week.

“This weekend, people all over are coming together not just to mourn the lives lost to ICE violence, but to confront a pattern of harm that has torn families apart and terrorized our communities,” said Leah Greenberg, co-executive director of Indivisible, an organizer of “ICE Out for Good Weekend of Action”.

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    Frankly I can’t think of any movement or resitance in history that didn’t involve either a protest or violence at some point.

    You refuse to accept that protesting builds movements to the point where they can create large action. Certainly was part of the civil rights movement.

    I definently support the people actually going to and organizing protesters a whole lot more than someone bitching online that this isn’t enough. Go ahead be the change you want to see

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      I see zero momentum. There is absolutely no difference between an ice protest and no kings. It’s gonna be the same people. Probably fewer. Same end result—nothing.

      You can be frank until you’re blue in the face, but that doesn’t change reality. You just cannot accept that this country is done, despite the overwhelming evidence.

      And, when someone ruins your good vibes with reality—you lash out and clutch your useless picket sign! The tactics of the civil rights movement worked THEN. They will not work NOW.

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        Nothing can happen until the November election.

        No Kings needs to organize and flip every red seat they can. It seems likely the House will flip. It’s POSSIBLE (but unlikely) the Senate will flip.

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          No kings is dead. No ICE (or whatever) is gonna last a month. By October, there will be some sort of gestapo set up to disrupt elections. The post office already removed incoming timestamps for one reason—mail in vote suppression.

          The future is crystal clear—I dunno how you fools keep talking about “next election” like this is going to ever end.

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            Not sure what makes you think No Kings and 5051 are dead, they’re still going and will only get stronger as we get closer to election season.

            There will be a next election because elections are run at the state and local levels, the feds can’t stop it even if they wanted to.

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                Organizing 7 million people to protest on the same day was a huge feat.

                To put that in perspective, the margin between Trump and Harris was only 2 million.

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                  And those seven Million people met and then went home… So what I’m asking for is…. what happened? Nothing. What were the gains? None.

                  Because as far as I can tell, Trump—the self-proclaimed president of Venezuela—is going to take over another country pretty soon… Pretty sure that makes him a king.

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                    Getting people organized is the first step, getting them to actually vote is the second. That’s where we’re at in 2026.

                    If they succeed in motivating people to vote out the Republicans, that’s all it takes.

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        The tactics of the civil rights movement worked THEN. They will not work NOW.

        General strikes and Civil disobedience won’t work now?

        Kinda running out of options that don’t involve guns bud.

        You just cannot accept that this country is done

        Oh gotcha you’re just not even wanting to try anything at all. Thanks for clearing that up.

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          Again, you only see picket signs vs bullets.

          I must not be willing to try ANYTHING because I disagree with you. Despite me saying otherwise this whole time.

          Like I said, clutch you picket signs and block your ears.

          Have the day you fought for 💋

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              You’re both right, but seems like you’re both just trying to prove the other wrong. Keep protesting, keep showing up, but imagine how much more effective it would be if those protesters were armed. Openly armed. You don’t even need to bring ammo, just make it clear that the left - that most Americans can fight too.

              We’re probably not voting our way out of this, we’ll just vote it back into the shadows. ICE has been around for decades, surveillance state for decades, broken police system for centuries (?), liberal/neoliberal economy for decades, our government more and more a plutocracy for decades which has held the monopoly on violence.

              Solutions via option A or B would be great, but the threat of option C must be on the table. If you’re holding a gun and I’m holding a sign, then we aren’t negotiating on equal footing.

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                Truthfully I feel like I gave them the opportunity several times to state their alternatives. They refused and just said it’s impossible

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              You never asked me for another option. You told me there were no other options. You refuse to entertain anything. I’m not a troll just because I disagree with you.

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      The civil rights movement was successful because of the economic violence of the Montgomery bus boycott which went on for over a year. If they tried today’s method of a few hours on a random Saturday they would still be protesting.