• ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    8 hours ago

    So a fascist wants to invade Greenland. These ghouls want to capitalize on that to build some tech bro dystopia shit. I think we know what we need to call these ghouls. Fascist ghouls.

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      As a US citizen who will suffer under the embargo the rest of the world will set up around US trade, I will kind of miss things like toothpaste and medicine and food.

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    OHHH this all makes sense suddenly. Curtis fucking Yarvin the dweeb-villain himself is behind this. Everyone should be aware of the technofeudalist plan to destroy America as we know it and turn it into a network state with monarch-like ultra-authoritarian “CEOs” of each country. Oh and btw Peter Thiel is fully bought into this (there are dozens of verified comms between them), and Thiel owns Vance. So when Trump dies, this is their ultimate plan.

    Check out Prospera in Honduras, one early example of these states.

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      Sounds about right. They know climate change is coming and Greenland will be prime real estate in a few decades.

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          You jest, but these are egomaniacs that believe they are the harbingers and rulers of a new world. I’m not saying it’s true, however it is totally within the realm of possibility that, at this point, they view their actions as terraforming.

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            Why can’t we just… like… terraform our current environment? Y’know, like, cleaning the air, soil, and water…? Right…?

            I know the answer is because it’s not profitable.

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        I don’t think climate change is the primary driver, since they won’t even be alive to see the worst affects of it. Don’t get me wrong it’s going to make everything worse even within 10 years, but it’s not turning Greenland into some habitable, farmable landmass in the span of these technofascists’ lifetimes. God I hate this.

        People should read The Ministry for the Future to learn how they dealt with climate criminals as more and more people suffered and died due to climate change in the mid-future.

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          These people believe that they will actually defeat death itself with technology. It is part of their ideology. Look into transhumanism and how the tech bros heavily buy into the idea that they will outlive us all because they assume themselves to be superior. Thiel openly says so in that Antichrist NYT interview.

          Survival of the richest by Douglas Rushkoff (professor of media theory and the guy who coined terms like ‘viral media’ and ‘digital native’) is a very interesting read on that.

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          I genuinely believe you’re underestimating how important legacy is to these people. These rich fucks donating to have anything built is to see their name in stone on the building facade. I think you’re dead wrong that they’d approach this any differently knowing they won’t live to reap their investment, they’ll do exactly that to immortalize their families.

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            Interesting point. I can see it going both ways. They are fundamentally broken inside with greed and selfishness, but also obsessed with immortality and legacy like you said, so maybe a little of both?

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    All previous nvestigations and attempts at building of infrastructure on Greenland has given the same results: It is not feasible.

    This idea of building a biodome city is like people in the 1800s dreaming of flying to the moon using steam engines and gas blimps.

    There’s good reason why Greenland/Denmark/China has already given up for now on building the much wanted airport hub and mineral extraction etc. There’s good reasons why USA abandoned their nuclear silos there. At the moment it will cost insane amounts of money if it’s even possible.

    Maybe in 50-100 years when the ice has melted, then we can investigate once again to find out if it’s even possible then or if the assumed bedrock under the ice is actually just a pile of mud.

    The current knowledge and technology can’t do this in any way that will make any economical sense in comparison to what that amount of money can actually create elsewhere right now.

    If the billionaires want to throw all their money at it, sure, go ahead. It’s not going to work, but at least their money will change hands in the process.

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    This is why being a philanthropist doesn’t reform a billionaire. They’re making decisions for the rest of us using our money.

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      The money still have to come from somewhere, either they get it from stock or from investment/project like these.

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        keep following that chain…where do you think the $ going into the stock market comes from?

        ultimately, the entire thing hinges on underpaying people for their labor

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          Uhh, where do you think i’m going? I thought it’s pretty obvious that i point to both stock and such project, which is very much contradicting to his philanthropy project, but meh people here really need to have thing spell out for them in a wall of text.

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        Free to build the data centers necessary to control an army of terminators; to genocide the proles once capitalism no longer requires their labour.

        Like, I’m not even joking. I have zero doubt whatsoever that is the final solution in the minds of psychopaths like Thiel or Altman. Humanity is currently a parasite and our civilisation can not continue at the current rate of consumption for more than a couple of centuries without monumental leaps in technology.

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    Andrew Ryan voice: A city free of the tyranny of labor laws and the age of consent

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    wait wait wait…

    is THIS the real reason Trump wants to take over Greenland? because the cool kids are all going there, and they didn’t invite him?

    hahaha! what a turd. old Donny Nofriends. so pathetic.

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    Here’s my tinfoil hat hot take:

    Considering the development of hypersonic missiles, Greenland would do little to defend/protect during modern warfare.

    But the location combined with low population, thermal power sources, would be ideal for development for an attempt to create a future climate change shelter. If a select group wanted to keep cool on their own big island as the rest of the world burned, this is how I would expect them to plan it out.

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        He’s a means to an end for those that want to do whatever the fuck they like. Can him the smartest man you’ve ever met, throw him some pocket change and give him a fake trophy, he’ll do whatever you tell him.