Expert at what? At ignoring the overwhelmingly clear global enshittification pipeline that is hedge fund open market attrition abuse and its in-your-face openly aggressive shorting cycle strategies that are laid bare for absolutely everyone to see?
Bad. It’s always bad for the user. It’s good for the people at the top, but the reason for going public is never ever for the benefit of the consumer.
The reason is that even if the initial buy-in helps fund innovation, that will inevitably be replaced by enshittification as the board of investors demand “line must go up.” You can’t be consumer focused and chase profits; they are mutually exclusive.
Legit question: when has any company’s IPO led to improved anything for end users?
The best case i can think of is that most of the big tech that IPOd probally helped more users even if they over all quality didnt go up. Kind of hard to measure though. IPO give the company cash but at the trade of stakeholders.
Exactly every business that goes into market to be owned by finance hedge fund bros that use pensions as leverage and insider lobbying tactics to develop retail investor siphoning schemes become worse, because that’s how they make money
If nitro was $10-15 a year I’d have signed up ages ago. $10 a month is more expensive than my mobile phone plan.
Bad
You’re welcome
Update: I was wrong you do not need to create an account for each server
Original with misinformation stricken out: I don’t think stoat is federated…
People need to make a new account for every server, so I can’t see this catching on.I wouldn’t personally care, but it’s a problem for a lot of people.
If I’m wrong let me know though. I’d love to get away from discord and my attempts to get friends on mumble or TS6 have been unsuccessful.
It is not federated indeed, but you don’t need to make a new account for every server. I am on multiple servers and never was asked to create an account per server. Given that there is no federated alternative to Discord and having looked for other alternatives, Stoat is the only Discord alternative that actually works like Discord. If there’s a federated alternative to discord that works like it in the future, though, I’ll gladly hop on that train
Good to know. I may give this a try this weekend, thank you!
Also updated my original post.
just like reddit it goes public just after it becomes irrelevant.
Discprd sucks, but there is no good alternative.
Stoat.chat is good
Matrix (basically federated Discord), which is already used by a lot of open source projects, but due to the Network Effect, is not as popular as Discord. It is possible to bridge Discord and Matrix, but the server admin has to implement that, and isn’t the cleanest solution.
Basically all non-corporate social media platforms suffer from the same problem, that being the chicken and the egg.
Matrix is rubbish, slow, buggy, complicated mess.
I’ve been using it for a decade with very few issues.
This just pointedly isn’t true. There are good alternatives, there’s just not a single drop-in replacement for the role that Discord fills.
For the most obvious drop-in replacement, you have Stoat, previously called Revolt. It’s basically Discord but self-hosted. For text and voice chat you have things like Matrix or Signal, both having the added bonus of being end-to-end encrypted so your shit is private. There’s also the old-school options like Mumble and IRC.
For forums there’s Discourse, or if you want to go traditional phpbb is still around.
The big problem is that not all your friends are gathered on a single platform. This was always the case before Discord, and will be the case again after Discord. Be the change. Encourage people to switch away, and move your communities. Prune those that you don’t need any more.
For me personally, if a software project or game server has its own web forum, its preferred way to communicate and talk about this project or server specifically. I would rather register 100 accounts on one hundred forums, than create one account on discord, and be able join 100 communites. I am talking about large communities, and not personal or group chatting, for which i can use matrix or signal.
And what i meant by “no good alternatives”, is that there are no alternatives which are both, good as in quality, and actually popular way to host a community and not some niche project.
There is no alternative because the software is irrelevant. The communities are what’s good about it, and the alternatives don’t have that.
Sure, if you want to start a chatroom with some friends, you can do a lot better than discord, but if you want what used to be discussion boards on specific topics, you’re stuck with discord as that’s where everyone went.
Again, be the difference. I harass companies over mail because I don’t want to fucking use Discord to get project or order status updates.
“Thanks for the update. You know, it’d be really prudent to post this kind of thing on your website, or even send out updates via newsletter.”
Isn’t discord already profitable?
Not at all. But even if it was, an IPO always means shareholders want infinite double digit growth, and post IPO companies will do ANYTHING for the shareholders and they all hate the users.
Sounds realistic unfortunately
No.
It’s impossible to not be profitable with that much free personal information
