• jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I can’t see how any reasonable jury would convict.

    That’s either a violent thug that believes they cannot be held accountable for anything they do. Or it’s someone PRETENDING to be that ICE agent and hoping to benefit from that same lack of accountability. In either case, your life is at risk if you let them get close.

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    Trump is the biggest threat to the world since hitler fr, americans should strike, put the american economy on pause so they can DEMAND the dissolution of this terror regime. And for all the other basic human rights they deserve. They literally only care about the economy, so just make a deal with everyone to stop working for one day as a start, set up strike funds.

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    ICE officials worried citizens may treat them the same way they treat people. Welcome to bizarro land.

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    So, ICE is scared that aggressive untrained people will use deadly force against them, and that afterwards the government will do nothing about it?

    That’s pretty much how everybody else has felt about ICE for a long time.

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          We all cope in our own ways. This post is an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda, so… at least there’s that?

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            This post is an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda

            This post isn’t propaganda, though, so it’s not that amazing of an example.

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              Yeah and if this openly and unabashedly satirical post was still being treated like legit reporting, imagine how people must react to actual propaganda.

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                Actual propaganda isn’t true, though, or at least it requires an element of misleading in it. If ICE officials aren’t actually concerned about people shooting them and claiming self-defense, then I’ll eat my hat, as the old saying goes.

                It’s also not “openly and unabashedly satirical.” You only think that because you recognize the source as satirical. To everybody else, it reads as clickbait.

                Clickbait + true statements does not equal an amazing example of how we are not immune to propaganda.

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                  Actual propaganda frequently is true, this is misleading in that it is not actually reporting news, just guessing something is true doesn’t make it true, I didn’t recognize the poster I went and looked it up trying to find a source and discovered it was posted by a very open satire site, and this seems like a really stupid thing for you to be trying to start a fight over.

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            I wasn’t criticising the satirist, more the world that is making satire impossible to differentiate from fact.

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              Nah totally, I read it as a similar sentiment to "What’s the point in doing anything". If that was off the mark I apologize. I just meant that we all cope in our own ways, even if some of them are somewhat windmill-tilting-y

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          Because there’s still plenty of wiggle room. You actually thought ICE officials were afraid of citizens?

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          In this case, perhaps to put the idea of shooting at ICE cars out into the universe without getting in trouble lol

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        Not in this case.

        Give it a month, max, before somebody with either the cojones or the ovaries required to do this, does it.

        … This … this is literally how the American Revolution started, at least from one sort of way of looking at it.

        You have oppressive government forces killing and maiming enough randos long enough, eventually the randos start shooting back.

        See also: Anywhere else the US has invaded and occupied in the last, I dunno, 75 years, more than that.

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        With that said, if you were to end in the same situation, would the idea to actually run over an ICE agent so that he doesn’t shoot you cross your mind?

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          I really fail to see how that’s relevant to the source being a satire news site.

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            What I mean is satire or not: they SHOULD be worried. Now people may genuinely assume that running over them is the higher survival rate option.

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      That pig was was recording while reaching for his gun, it looks like that video was meant as a trophy.

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    Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police

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    ICE was the reason why I did not visit the US. Now it is ICE and the unbelievable violation of privacy at the border.

    The collection of biometrics all over the world that went from being something you needed at least serious suspicion of to being extremely common and routine for literally everything is just shit.

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    That’s why civilization exists you dumb fucks. You start tearing it down and violence is all that’s left.

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      Eh, can’t say I agree with Thomas Hobbes on this. ICE is acting in the exact opposite of the state of nature, they’re the violent arm of the sovereign

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        That’s a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.

        What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they’re regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which “might makes right” and “survival of the fittest,” conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.

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          That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said “might makes right” on a live TV interview.

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        Was your comment intended to suggest a better term than “civilization” was “society”? That is probably a valid correction and I need to brush up on my vocabulary before I have angry anti fascism outbursts on the interwebs.

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    Guys, The Halfway Post is a satire website. “America’s #1 source for Dada news”. Lotta people eating the onion in this comment section.

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      Mate, have you read the news in the last months, with special attention to the first days of this year? I understand it’s satire and it’s not real, but right now, people are having a really hard time to distinguish satire from real news.

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        One of the biggest reasons why everything sucks right now is the prevelance of misinformation online. This isn’t even trying to be misinformation, it took me literally five seconds to confirm that this is from a satire website, and yet when I posted it every other comment was engaging with this as though it were factual reporting.

        I know everything sucks right now, but we can’t start freely accepting lies as truth just because we’re tired. If we do that, we lose completely.

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      Especially when, sadly, we all know DHS will 100% get a Federal judge or SCOTUS to make this LEO-only OK and let them shoot anyone they want driving, walking, or looking towards them.

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      That’s because a lot of people are fucking pissed and in absence of any action by our governments and institutions in place to protect us are on the verge of taking matters into their own hands.

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      It reveals itself as satire when it assumed US citizens would actively fight the fascists. They are way too lethargic and complacent to ever do anything of the sort.

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    It’s almost as if they’re projecting since they know that it’s standard practice for them to jump in front of moving vehicles so they have an excuse to open fire and claim self defense.

    They’re literally accusing people of what they have been doing for at least a decade now.