I’m glad your hell is just people pointing out that this entire administation owes their entire ability to sic paramilitary warmongering fascists on the populace to your apathy and inability to unravel the simplest logical quandaries.
Meanwhile, people are being rounded up by the modern SS and citizens are being executed in the street. Why don’t you just delete your comment, and then stay home, and do nothing, just like the last election.
Who keeps failing to show up at primaries and vote in a more progressive candidate, and then bitches about how the candidate selected doesn’t represent them and then lets literally-hitler-2.0 have a second fucking term?
Get the fuck out of here with these bottom of the barrel useless fucking questions. Did you vote to stop trump, or did you stand-by on a “principle” that was not up for consideration during the election?
I voted to stop Trump at every opportunity and voted for progressives up and down the ballot for years. I spent the last few years pissed at so many easy to avoid Democrat blunders; pissed because I knew they would be responsible for losing the liberal democracy they lied about caring for. They deserved to lose their races, but none of us plebs deserve what that has brought upon both us and the world.
What pisses me off most about people like you is you don’t try for any long term solutions. You double down on the short term goal of voting for weak candidates with unpopular approaches because you believe that is all you can do. You complain about nonvoters without ever questioning if maybe Democratic voters also dropped the ball in not demanding long term systemic stability.
For me, it’s living in a failed country, suffering through the daily consequences of decades of neoliberalism (aka soft imperialism), followed by fascism. It’s having to argue for basic civil rights with most of the people in my life only to have a whole other group of people argue that their actions brought fascism now to avoid worse fascism later. Wow, what a brilliant plan. Let’s hear more about how accelerating our problems is going to fix them. We could’ve had 4 more years of neoliberalism and continued to let the progressive caucus grow. But sure, death and destruction is better… Somehow…
people argue that their actions brought fascism now to avoid worse fascism later.
See, now that’s interesting. There was only one major organized movement around a policy change during the election, and it wasn’t about the timing of implementing fascism.
And it lost, as the policy did not change.
Even today the losing party is taking the Whig party strategy of trying to avoid the issue. The Whigs famously failed as a party and ultimately allowed Slavery to spiral as an issue until America Civil Warred over it.
No, I think hell is when you’re stripped of human rights because some winner on the Internet spent months helping to elect administration that helps both you and said winner. One level of that hell is being shot in the face, while said winner continues to blame everyone else for what’s ultimately his decision.
People with the position you’re arguing with, usually come from some sort of privilege, and they just don’t understand what it is to have it truly bad. They usually experience some sort of advercity and prosecution, and they, as humans often do, believe that that was bad and it can’t be worse, so when they sacrifice people on altar of endless purity checks, they don’t think of it as an act of cruelty, because they believe that they sacrifice people faiths akin to bad arguments on twitter, not being shot in the face by a paramilitary member.
The same centrist Dems who willingly sacrificed the Palestinians and are now proposing that minority groups in the US be sacrificed as well. And they’re certainly not proposing abolishing or cutting ICE’s funding. Kamala and her clique perform regular electoral calculus where they figure out what minority group is worth throwing into the woodchipper to appeal to more middle aged suburban white people.
You can look for excuses all you want, but you had choices, not great, and terrifyingly bad, and you chose one that is worse, and as a consequence of that, a bunch of evil happens that could be avoided. And at this point it doesn’t matter how not great the other choice was.
Hell is debating with neoliberal losers forever about what could have been.
I’m glad your hell is just people pointing out that this entire administation owes their entire ability to sic paramilitary warmongering fascists on the populace to your apathy and inability to unravel the simplest logical quandaries.
Meanwhile, people are being rounded up by the modern SS and citizens are being executed in the street. Why don’t you just delete your comment, and then stay home, and do nothing, just like the last election.
Who was in charge for the decades of rising wealth inequality and corporate power that fascism was a reaction to?
Who keeps failing to show up at primaries and vote in a more progressive candidate, and then bitches about how the candidate selected doesn’t represent them and then lets literally-hitler-2.0 have a second fucking term?
Get the fuck out of here with these bottom of the barrel useless fucking questions. Did you vote to stop trump, or did you stand-by on a “principle” that was not up for consideration during the election?
Fucking. Morons.
I voted to stop Trump at every opportunity and voted for progressives up and down the ballot for years. I spent the last few years pissed at so many easy to avoid Democrat blunders; pissed because I knew they would be responsible for losing the liberal democracy they lied about caring for. They deserved to lose their races, but none of us plebs deserve what that has brought upon both us and the world.
What pisses me off most about people like you is you don’t try for any long term solutions. You double down on the short term goal of voting for weak candidates with unpopular approaches because you believe that is all you can do. You complain about nonvoters without ever questioning if maybe Democratic voters also dropped the ball in not demanding long term systemic stability.
For me, it’s living in a failed country, suffering through the daily consequences of decades of neoliberalism (aka soft imperialism), followed by fascism. It’s having to argue for basic civil rights with most of the people in my life only to have a whole other group of people argue that their actions brought fascism now to avoid worse fascism later. Wow, what a brilliant plan. Let’s hear more about how accelerating our problems is going to fix them. We could’ve had 4 more years of neoliberalism and continued to let the progressive caucus grow. But sure, death and destruction is better… Somehow…
See, now that’s interesting. There was only one major organized movement around a policy change during the election, and it wasn’t about the timing of implementing fascism.
And it lost, as the policy did not change.
Even today the losing party is taking the Whig party strategy of trying to avoid the issue. The Whigs famously failed as a party and ultimately allowed Slavery to spiral as an issue until America Civil Warred over it.
No, I think hell is when you’re stripped of human rights because some winner on the Internet spent months helping to elect administration that helps both you and said winner. One level of that hell is being shot in the face, while said winner continues to blame everyone else for what’s ultimately his decision.
That’s silly.
You won’t get to debate it forever. Just until the purity of your ideology leads you to a starve to death in a gulag.
People with the position you’re arguing with, usually come from some sort of privilege, and they just don’t understand what it is to have it truly bad. They usually experience some sort of advercity and prosecution, and they, as humans often do, believe that that was bad and it can’t be worse, so when they sacrifice people on altar of endless purity checks, they don’t think of it as an act of cruelty, because they believe that they sacrifice people faiths akin to bad arguments on twitter, not being shot in the face by a paramilitary member.
The same centrist Dems who willingly sacrificed the Palestinians and are now proposing that minority groups in the US be sacrificed as well. And they’re certainly not proposing abolishing or cutting ICE’s funding. Kamala and her clique perform regular electoral calculus where they figure out what minority group is worth throwing into the woodchipper to appeal to more middle aged suburban white people.
You can look for excuses all you want, but you had choices, not great, and terrifyingly bad, and you chose one that is worse, and as a consequence of that, a bunch of evil happens that could be avoided. And at this point it doesn’t matter how not great the other choice was.
You have myopia and are incapable of planning long term.