• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    Ice is terrorists

    When this is over, and one day it will be over, all the worst in the US need their Neurenberg moment.

    For the rest of the US, it should be rebuilt from scratch, Ina good way NOT for the rich anymore

  • BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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    It’s maddening to see the predictable full-throated lying about how she was a terrorist coming from the administration and its enabling news networks, knowing that their intended audience will nod and say ‘seems legit’

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      Tired of all this censoring of videos everywhere. If you can’t see a woman’s brains splattered over her car it’s a little easier to forgive the ICE nazi who shot her, right?

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        Some get nauseated at the sight of blood, let alone brain matter. Obscuring the visual of a murdered person isn’t a ploy to benefit the murderer. No one is watching this footage for the express purpose of seeing a dead body.

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          I get your point, but people should feel sickened and nauseated by this. They need to see and know it’s real. The consequences of fascism need to be driven home viscerally, into their very cores. They need to see the real, uncensored world they created and are living in. Censorship of atrocity is a criminal injustice that feeds fascism, authoritarianism, and its support.

          Renee Nicole Good is not Thích Quảng Đức. She didn’t choose this. She didn’t want to die, to leave her children behind, to widow her spouse, to bereave her family. She was murdered by bloodthirsty Republican fascists. It is up to us, the living, to make her unwilling sacrifice matter. Her murder should be a nauseating core memory for everyone in North America and the world, and a reminder of the horrifying consequences of allowing fascism to foment or attain power.

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            I get your point, but I don’t need to see an open skull cavity to know a person was murdered.

            I saw a person aim a firearm and pull the trigger, and the person they were aiming at died as a result. It doesn’t matter where the bullet wound is when the result is the same.

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      Literally everyone could see this coming during the election year. Don’t know what’s more depressing, that a majority of Americans wanted this, that some Americans somehow couldn’t see this coming, or that some thought “yes, this is worth it to teach the Democrats a lesson about picking uninspiring candidates with a slightly weird laugh.”

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        Will you people stop whining about the negligible number of people staying home ‘to teach the Democrats a lesson’? There never were many of those. She was going to lose regardless. They had an uphill battle with Biden not dropping out earlier, and then they weren’t out there campaigning nearly enough. Her visibility was just terrible and she had no platform other than “I’m not Trump”. They fucked up. Don’t blame people for sitting out. They’re not doing it to help Trump

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          They will never stop. They will just let Trump do awful shit, unfazed, so they can point and blame this is their fault.

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            Blame Biden and Harris and everyone who was responsible. Blaming non-voters is idiotic. They’re tuning out exactly because the career politicians fucked it up to the point where they feel democracy doesn’t help anyways. I don’t agree but shaming people into voting for you is just a losing strategy. And it’s tiresome whining at this point

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              FYI, to a foreigner, You sound exactly like a Trump enabler. Fuck you.

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            USA has been doing this for a long time. What is the “end result” when it’s what you began with?

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      Great, get a taste of your own medicine.
      This is what your regime did to minorities or other countries since forever.

      “But now they’re shooting white people! Wish we could go back to Biden times our democracy where we only shot black and brown people, put their kids in cages and helped in genociding Palestinians and other countries we don’t care about.
      You know, when we were a great democracy”

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        Ahh yes, those of us who were equally appalled by all of that deserve it somehow, actually!

        Eat shit and fuck off you evil sack of shit. It has been so incredibly jarring to see so many of you freaks just stoop directly to the level of fascists immediately when you get the chance to do so over the Internet with no repercussions, it’s absolutely pathetic.

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          look how triggered and nasty they get when confronted with their hypocrisy.

          those of us who were equally appalled by all of that

          That’s about 4 people, the rest are fascist Trumpers, or fascist-light libs/dems.
          Cry all the little crocodile tears you want, do some projection calling others fascist and most of all, enjoy your just rewards.
          Fuck your cancerous shithole. Glad you’re circling the drain. Won’t be missed

          • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip
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            • 1867 comments in 10 months
            • most of them are anti-us or in anti-us comminities/posts

            How’s the Russian troll farm pay? Keeping you afloat?

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              Bitch, repeating a cold war propaganda points isn’t the flex you think it is.

              Fuck you, Fuck US, Fuck China and Fuck Russia.

              Go get some original thoughts for a change.

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                What cold war propaganda? This is a well known thing that actually occurs. Countries hire individuals to escalate online discussions to disrupt online communities.

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              Yeah God forbid people write six comments a day. It’s not like politics internet arguments drag on forever, no it has to be them evil Russians.

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                Or the evil (insert country here) who hires people to be assholes online. Point was not specific to Russia, it just so happens to be the one country most people associate this online assholery.

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                  And my point is that your point doesn’t make sense. People can, in fact, disagree with you (and be assholes about it) without being Russian/Chinese/whatever trolls. The sentiment they’re expressing is common enough that it’s not at all grounds for accusing them of being a paid troll.

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              lol it goes scavenging for some dirt.
              ypu reeeeeally got me now.
              IDGAF what you think or anyone in your shithole.
              And typical americunt thinks being against the fascist shithole must be Russian.
              So deluded it thinks everyone likes those violent barbarians.
              Cry more, and enjoy your orange clown.

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                  yawn
                  all so predictable, not an independent thought in their tiny heads.
                  Blocking you now loser, you bore me

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    If you die you can’t sue and the public doesn’t get to hear the victim. The family can sue, but it’s not the same. Seems to be pretty standard, even in CCW classes it’s often implied if not directly stated that if you shoot someone it’s better if they die so you don’t get sued by them.

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      That’s part of it, the other part is it’s hard to tell when a person is no longer a threat to you in the heat of the moment. People have been shot before who aren’t high on anything and still able to go for several minutes longer with life ending injuries.

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          I was commenting on self defense usage in general. Though all the gung ho idiots seem to forget the first rule, avoid a situation where you’ll need to fight/defend yourself. This is from someone who has been educated with self defense classes, reading, and examples.

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            Are you rationalizing why he shot her or are you just trying to show off your morbid knowledge and impress us with your background? I already stated why death is a “preferable” outcome. What did your grisly contribution of “they can still live a while” add?

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      I knew a long time ago they are not the first world country they claim to be but lately they show how low on the third list they are. No hope anymore.

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      Nope Shitraeli’s don’t shoot white people.
      Usually american pigs don’t do that either.
      Black or brown people on the contrary get murdered daily, but who cared? Now it’s also white people!
      Worst hypocrites on the planet.

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        There’s a big astroturf farm by Trump/Russia/China that’s just pushing the blame on someone else (non voters) and not fighting back at all (this is what he wants). Just follow the protocol bs.

        Remember the cop defending posts on reddit? This is surprisingly similar. They want you to focus on each other, not the problem, or the system that’s always been this way.

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      effectively yes. this is a riot control device called a pepper ball charger. it launches paintball shaped and sized balls filled with what amonts to tear gas. the idea is to pelt crowds with them causing respiratory distress. it is a good idea when dealing with police to be prepared to deal with this by having on you:

      • eye protection, the bigger the better
      • well fitting n95 or kn95 masks
      • water bottles
      • protective gloves for your skin

      optionally you may want to have:

      • spray bottles with water
      • salene solution

      there are other things you’ll want in your kit, but these are the basics for dealing with pepper ball chargers

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          no. i just didn’t want to distract from my core point about dealing with pepperball chargers and i already have a reputation on the threadiverse for being longwinded.

          your protest kit should include:

          Outfit

          • nondescript ball or running cap
          • eyewear, the bigger the better (splash goggles preferred)
          • a facial covering (ppe like kn95 on n95 preferred)
          • a neck scarf if you have tattoos on your neck
          • long sleeve moisture wicking non-descript shirt you can run in
          • supportive running gear (a sports bra if you have breasts that need supporting when running, running shorts or half tights no matter who you are, athletic underwear will also work, too)
          • long pants you can run in (this will go over your supportive running gear)
          • moisture wicking seamless socks (xotoes or injinji are extra recommended, though if toe socks aren’t your thing i’d point you to darn tough, farm 2 feet, or balega)

          Gloves

          These are listed separately from the rest of the outfit as depending on the circumstances you find yourself in you may have different needs so you should bring all

          • nitrile gloves (for first aid)
          • mechanics gloves (for general protectiun)
          • warm gloves (if it’s cold)
          • welding gloves (for removing and diffusing tear gas canisters)

          Shoes

          These are listed separately from the rest of the outfit as there’s no general consensus for what is best, so you’ll have to think about your own risk model and what you do at a protest to decide what makes sense for you. Whatever you pick, you need to pick something closed toed that you can spend at least 2 hours standing in, minimum

          • running shoes
          • training athletic shoes (aka gym shoes/cross trainers)
          • big man outdoor basketball shoes (though these are basically not found anywere but china anymore as big men at the top level of the sport have gotten shockingly nimble and americans don’t play on outdoor courts anymore. i would look at New Balance’s offerings if you go this route as they have some american market fresh foam outdoor court shoes)
          • tennis shoes (literal tennis shoes. for tennis.)
          • combat boots
          • work boots
          • steel toed shoes

          Other equipment

          • a nondescript backpack you can run in (reebok’s gym bags fit the bill excellently)
          • an umbrella (useful for deflecting riot control devices)
          • water bottles (plural)
          • first aid kit
          • a collapsible traffic cone
          • a tourniquet (assuming you have proper stop the bleed training)
          • a knife you feel comfortable carrying, smaller preferred, locking also preferred (i’d probably recommend the civivi baby banter 2)
          • antihistamines
          • menthol balm
          • lip balm
          • whistles (to use and distribute. learn the ICE alerting whistle blast patterns)

          Some final notes

          not everyone will be able to carry everything. you just need good coverage of all this stuff so that if anything happens someone nearby has what your group will need. go to a couple of protests and bring with you what you can that you believe would be the most useful. pay attention to what others have, but more importantly, keep an eye on what NO ONE has. the last couple of protests i’ve been to, NO ONE had anything to handle a tear gas canister and believed it was criminal to be prepared to diffuse one. so now i always make sure to bring welding gloves or oven mitts.

          remember, the best way to keep yourself safe is to keep everyone safe. no one brings about change by waiting patiently for change to come. we live in dangerous times and the best way to make everyone safe is to bring about change. so you’re going to have to step out and step up in this moment if you want to be safe. it will feel dangerous, but it’s better to go out and resist fascism than it is to wait around and guarantee yourself a spot in the concentration camps.

          as a final note: study ancient warfare. the police are trained to treat us like bands of savages. the sword and the spear are still the ultimate signifier of aristocratic power and people power. the modern day sword is the AR-15/AK-47 (depending on where in the world you are). it is complex, and it requires maintenance, and it requires training to use effectively. i’m not sure what the spear of liberation in our era is, but i’d keep an eye out for what it is, who’s using it, and what it takes for a crowd to become effective with it.

          as you study ancient warfare, pay particular attention to the jungle tactics employed in South America, Africa, and South East Asia as jungle and urban combat have a lot in common, and these tactics proved the most effective against the great European powers throughout the ages, even separating Haiti from Napoleonic France and preventing Vietnam from becoming an American Vassal state after France gave up on controlling them

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      Its full of pepper balls. They’ve been seen blasting peaceful protesters such as clergymen directly in the head with them on multiple times