Both mods are also moderators of [email protected]; they are admins, this is their instance, and they are engaging in vote tampering to boost their instance and its communities over the rest of the fediverse.
The language here seems off. (1) If the allegation is true (I can’t tell?), then wouldn’t this be anti-tampering/manipulation?
(2) Fortunately there is already a way to defederate from a single community somewhere on the Threadiverse, it’s called blocking it. With fewer than 100 monthly active users and less than one post per day (or even week?), I bet it would barely be noticed by OP?
(3) For anything more, I would need additional information such as whether the downvoting patterns were all delivered within seconds of one another, as some poorly written implementations of actual vote manipulation sometimes do. Otherwise it is just one person’s word, based on incomplete information, against another?
(4) All of that said, again, the argument for vote manipulation does not seem to hold water to me. There are only 9 total weekly activity users for that community!!? 79 monthly users, fewer than 100 posts total, and the vast majority are made by one of the mods themselves. This is a TINY community, barely a blip in the wider Threadiverse, where the phrase “struggling to survive” might very well apply.
I hate to bring up Reddit, but back on the bad place, I REALLY hated it when serial downvoters would be extremely obvious like going down through an enormous weekly mega thread and downvote literally every single comment in it, plus also do the same in every other post as well. The timestamp of when it started and stopped was super easy to see - a single, hard cutoff in each case where every single comment before that had received a downvote, whereas every single comment after that point had not. In the community, we all joked about who we had managed to piss off so badly that they would bot brigade us in such a manner. But it was also quite irksome, especially to new members of the community that would seemingly get slapped in the face upon asking an innocuous question and then wonder why “our” community was being such a dick as to immediately downvote them (WITHIN SECONDS of posting), and then never follow up with any explanation as to why. I mean, it was even called a “question mega thread”… so if they were invited to ask, then why downvote them for doing as asked?
Anyway, this instance has the right to protect itself against not merely a handful of random downvotes but by serial downvoting brigades, such as possibly delivered by a bot brigade. Mind you I don’t know that that is what is happening here, but given the other issues seen in this post (calling to defederate from an entire instance for behavior observed in only one singular, tiny community? and the instance itself is fairly tiny to boot, only 90 users per month, yet highly thought of with 13 endorsements for all that), I am not ready to simply believe it.
But please feel free to discount my opinion as I do not and never have had a lemmy.world account.
“Vote manipulation” bunch of fucking crybabies can’t handle people with opposing opinions. Block them and move on. Already did that when one of the mods started sucking Ai slop up
Is there anything on lemmy to monitor, report or track moderators like this. Mods here are very bad for thought policing their communities rather than moderating them.
They’re the ones manipulating votes.
dbzer0 manipulates votes all the time, good job, @[email protected] @[email protected]
I don’t understand what you think this has to do with dbzer0? The majority of the bans are not even from that instance; only 4 out of the 18 people in the screenshot are dbzer0 users.
Just sharing that users from dbzer0 regularly manipulate votes and also create many fake accounts
okay cheers for the heads up - just to be clear, this is my only account and I hope I’ll always have better things to do than try to manipulate votes on lemmy lol :D
There’s absolutely no punishment for having multiple accounts and not really any way to verify alt usage without admitting you use them. So if you can’t beat them, join them, make a few accounts and engage in some of it yourself.
don’t even know why Lemmy insists on being like preddit and having downvotes to begin with.
it’s all just pixels afterall
haha yeah I understand, I just don’t engage with lemmy much more than reading the main feed and making the occasional comment or post.
And while I dont have a strong opinion on whether downvotes should be allowed or not, I do think that if they are allowed then they should be allowed equally on every federated instance. Otherwise the instances that dont allow them will get an undeserved boost in visibility. I’ve dealt the same issue by threelonmusketeers and a now defunct conservative instance. It’s unhealthy when admins or mods put their thumb on the scales like that.
Reminder that Goat is banned from db0 for:
- consistent bad faith arguments
- continued slander of users when proven wrong
- Saying Gaza uses rape for liberation via
goat@lemmy.zip - Tried dragging the admin into an argument when the admin downvoted one comment, and when the admin wasn’t interested, mass banned all db0 users.
And that goat has said that he doesn’t care about genocide, has used racial slurs for Muslims (sands–t) and bans users for saying “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free.”
That’s why he brought them up for no reason. He doesn’t like to be proven wrong or called out for his explicit racism.
Can’t wait for goat to reply to this and say that documenting his own actions and words being documented are Tankie.
https://files.catbox.moe/jno9z5.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/pd2811.png https://files.catbox.moe/dr3ry2.jpg
Yeah I have no time for bigots, FREE PALESTINE <3 thanks for the additional context
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And your proof of this is. A handful of votes from established, longstanding, legitimate users?
Reminder that Goat is banned from db0 for:
- consistent bad faith arguments
- continued slander of users when proven wrong
- Saying Gaza uses rape for liberation via
goat@lemmy.zip - Tried dragging the admin into an argument when the admin downvoted one comment, and when the admin wasn’t interested, mass banned all db0 users.
And that goat has said that he doesn’t care about genocide, has used racial slurs for Muslims (sands–t) and bans users for saying “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free.”
That’s why he brought them up for no reason. He doesn’t like to be proven wrong or called out for his explicit racism.
Can’t wait for goat to reply to this and say that documenting his own actions and words being documented are Tankie.
https://files.catbox.moe/jno9z5.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/pd2811.png https://files.catbox.moe/dr3ry2.jpg
I also used sandshit for israel too lol
Racial slurs aren’t okay. Sorry you haven’t learned that yet.
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take your meds antiyank
So you think a couple people all upviting the same comments in a thread is conclusive proof of vote manipulation???
Oh wait, it’s goat.
Reminder that Goat is banned from db0 for:
- consistent bad faith arguments
- continued slander of users when proven wrong
- Saying Gaza uses rape for liberation via
goat@lemmy.zip - Tried dragging the admin into an argument when the admin downvoted one comment, and when the admin wasn’t interested, mass banned all db0 users.
And that goat has said that he doesn’t care about genocide, has used racial slurs for Muslims (sands–t) and bans users for saying “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free.”
That’s why he brought them up for no reason. He doesn’t like to be proven wrong or called out for his explicit racism.
Can’t wait for goat to reply to this and say that documenting his own actions and words being documented are Tankie.
https://files.catbox.moe/jno9z5.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/pd2811.png https://files.catbox.moe/dr3ry2.jpg
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