• Diplomjodler@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4311·
    6 days ago

    They’re openly threatening to invade another country and they’re in a hybrid war with almost all their neighbours. Plus, they’ve been enabling the Russian war in Ukraine from day one. They’re not in a position to be starting wars just yet but it’s certainly not for lack of trying. And you can ask the Uighurs the Tibetans, the Mongols and a lot of others what they think about this.

      • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zipEnglish
        3311·
        6 days ago

        You see, it is possible to resent both countries’ ambitions on other nations and global hegemony. You dont have to whatabout when someone points out that China is no saint either.

        What are you even hoping to achieve here? Make the reader say “oh well, guess what China does is okay then”?

        • grte@lemmy.caEnglish
          239·
          6 days ago

          My point is the USA is a warmonger who needs to be treated as such. Further, you are aware that the beginning of this thread is literally a yank doing a whataboutism in the opposite direction? Why don’t you go whine to them if that bothers you so much?

          • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zipEnglish
            83·
            6 days ago

            Because they have already been ratioed and corrected in their perspective by other commenters.

            I do of course entirely agree with you that the united states under current leadership are wildly untrustworthy and a potential danger to anyone who has something Trump wants. Scared for Denmark.

          • huppakee@piefed.socialEnglish
            42·
            6 days ago

            My point is the USA is a warmonger who needs to be treated as such.

            Not only your point, but also China’s point. I think it is fair to talk about the wrongs of China when they point the wrongs of the US. On the other hand, since I am not from either country i feel they can endlessly point at each other because it might fuel the desire to be better. And both China and the US really need to do better when it comes to abiding to international humanitarian law.

            This is a perfect example of the pot accusing the kettle, that saying is exactly meant for ‘whataboutism in the opposite direction’.

            • grte@lemmy.caEnglish
              31·
              6 days ago

              I’m not the one who complained about whataboutism. I pointed out that it’s hypocritical to whine about me doing it if you’re not also going to whine about the original commenter doing it. Which is fine, it’s legal to be a hypocrite. One should own it, though.

        • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.comEnglish
          15·
          4 days ago

          It is certainly possible to resent both, it is however pathetic to resent both equally, when one is 100 times worse than the other.

          “This man just murdered my mother, but fuck the guy who’s calling him out, he slapped me once 30 years ago”

          • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zipEnglish
            2·
            4 days ago

            While i would agree that at the immediate present the u.s appear to be the more belligerent and unpredictable actor i believe that there is not a lot of room for nuance in terms of aggression towards other sovereign countries. They are all unacceptable to me. The US should stay the hell out of Venezuela, Russia out of Ukraine and China out of Taiwan, to use the most current examples.

            • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.comEnglish
              15·
              4 days ago

              I believe there is a lot of room for nuance when we start counting victims. To me, the Nazis are not functionally the same to Poland, even if Poland invaded Czechoslovakia together with them, because Poland didn’t murder tens of millions of people. To me, the USA murdering tens of millions of people (38 million through economic sanctioning together with the EU since 1970, and 500k more every year) is absolutely horrifying and incomparable to anything else today except possibly the genocide in Gaza by Israel