• dipcart@lemmy.world
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    I dare him to invade Canada. Not so easy when its a white nation and people actually care

    Edit: this was sarcasm. Nobody cares when America bullies a nation of brown people, they do it all the time.

    Also I look a lot more like Maduro than I do Trump if that helps

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      What does “white nation” have anything to do with it? Sounds like you definitely own a pointy white hat.

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        They phrased it terribly but I think their point was that it’s easy for Americans to shrug off their illegal occupation of Venezuela, but when its closer to home and against a country that looks and speaks the same way they do, Americans might actually complain. But I don’t even know at this point considering most Americans seem incapable of fighting back against their government

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          Yes most Americans are racist against brown people, but knowing us we could really easily be very racist towards Canadians too.

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            I’ve got a friend who’s a dual citizen of the US and Canada, white, had his brown, Canadian girlfriend with him, drove down to NYC with a Canadian license plate, and on their way back, some truck driver on country roads was giving him a hard time and flipping him fingers. Not sure if the truck driver saw the brown girlfriend, but I’d say it’s beyond racist at this point; just dumb nationalists.

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            Yes most Americans are racist against brown people,

            Most Americans are as dumb as a brick but will be the first to tell you they’re the smartest mother fucker in the room.

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              Ya see it’s my lack of education that keeps my mind uncucumbered by the liberal lies, and able to think freely enough to hate anyone I’m told to instantly.

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            Problem is those same Americans are perfectly happy with deploying the National Guard to cities like Portland, DC, and Chicago.

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            They’re just too kind, right fellow American? And what’s with the cheese curds and gravy in FREEDOM fries, amirite?!?

            /s

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        Because it’s one thing to annex a country with people who may look visibly different to average Americans.

        But when you try and annex a country that looks very much the same, resistance will be everywhere and invisible.

        That guy working next to Americans in the critical infrastructure project? Ya, he’s Canadian and pissed so he’s gonna do something about it.

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        Yeah my bad it was sarcastic. Canada has urged “all parties” to respect international law" after America has invaded a sovereign nation because Canadians love racism.

        I really just meant that the status quo is not challenged by America invading a ‘brown’ country but a long time ally with close ties to other western countries? Thats a harder sell.

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        Half of Canada already thinks we are American. They know more American rights and laws then they do Canadian.

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        Check yer stats, even in Alaberta it’s only about 15% or so.

        Probably a big difference between Lloydminster and Windsor.

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      We would fold extremely fast. We don’t have an independent infrastructure to wait out the US like Afghanistan and Iraq. What we do need is fucking nukes.

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        It’s not about taking the territory, it’s about keeping it.

        Canada’s advantage is that the resource investment to hold capture our mineral and oil resources isn’t worth the necessary human and economic costs.

        You have a country full of angry people that look like the average American and speak the same language. That’s a guerrilla warfare disaster waiting to happen, and the US generals whose literal job is to consider this have sad as much.

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          We’re so much alike that Canadian integration would be less painful than to resist and struggle. I don’t have the faith we’d hold out for long, especially when it comes to our politicians and form a Canadian Dream party.

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            I have more faith in the average Canadian to do what’s right than in our elected officials. The travel and liquor boycotts and the new produce options at the grocery store speak to the average person’s elbows up mentality. We are meek-mannered and polite but we can also be extremely petty and we can hold grudges for a very long time.

            We will not fold willingly into a vassal relationship, even if they get a PM or Premier to endorse the move.

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              Aren’t we already a vassal state? Sure we are “apposing” American produce well shopping at Walmart and Costco. Eating at resturants owned by American companies, going to our national parks were all attractions are owned by American companies, using American tech. I mean the list goes on and on.

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                We are not supplying our troops to fight for the US across the globe (NATO obligations aside.) We have free elections. We are free to set our own social welfare policies. While we can always strive more for additional separations and greater sovereignty there is a lot further to fall if we don’t learn lessons from around the world.

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            Canada would hold out forever, even if the government fell in 6 hours.

            30 percent of Canadians would fold instantly, maybe even be happy.

            30 percent of Canadians would be very unhappy, and at least tolerate to even mildly assist in a resistance, but would take very little risk themselves.

            The rest would form an active resistance and a good chunk of that would propagate generations of if it had to. It would be extremely expensive to maintain any infrastructure outside of Canadian cities. And even the cities would see regular sabotage.

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        The formal army wouldn’t last too long, but imagine what an insurgency would look like.

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        We are tied to tightly to the USA, with auto sector etc, but Canada has a ton of resources we ship to the USA we just need new trade partners

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          But there isn’t anyone who can replace America. They are two big. Sure we should diversify but we can’t replace America.

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            We already are making deals direct to mexico and plans with Europe and China. If the USA continues on this illegal war path we will have to replace them… with the help of the world.

            USA exists by extorting other peoples resources. If people stopped dealing with them totally they would struggle