I don’t care about Maduro, as far as I’m concerned, they can shoot him if they want. What matters to me is walking through the streets of my city and seeing the faces of fear on my neighbors. The military patrolling to prevent looting due to panic. It’s a collective hangover, a horrible one.
It’s 2016 all over again. It’s seeing despair entering the circulatory system of all Venezuelans, only now it’s more sudden, and we are painfully aware of it.
This is far from improving, and we know it.
As an American, we may hate him more than you do right now. I’m sorry this is happening, the oligarchs just want Venezuela’s largest crude oil reserve because greedy corporations (ExxonMobil, Chevron, ConocoPhilips, Halliburton, etc.) want more control over a dying planet. America has done this to Latin American countries 12 times in the last ~100 years, and went to war for 30+ years in the Middle East for oil too, so this is nothing new from an imperialism perspective.
You hate him more than people literally fearing for their lives because of his actions? I am sorry, but I don’t believe you.
Yeah I personally am not fearing for my life (yet) due to him enacting violence in my city (yet). Actually that’s kind of not true with ICE, but yeah I agree it’s not quite the same, and citizens of Caracas are suffering more right now.
However, there’s a longer history that US citizens have had to deal with, and we hate him. Hundreds of thousands or millions of people cut off from food, medicine, housing. Millions of job losses due to his corruption with Musk. There’s about 700 other things that we’ve personally dealt with. But yeah, in this exact moment, we haven’t had our city bombed and our leader abducted (yet), so acutely OP dislikes America maybe more.
That’s not true. The US returned him to power.
If they hated him as much as you claim he wouldn’t have even ran the second time because you’d have done something about it. Certainly he wouldn’t have won.
Nope, you don’t all hate him. Furthermore you as a nation are responsible for his actions.
Who said “we all”?
It’s about 31% who voted for him, about 35% that didn’t vote at all, and the rest that voted for someone else. There are extreme gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement efforts in place, and straight up rigging in some cases, so it’s not even just a fair contest.
So by voter majority at the least you don’t hate him. Those who didn’t vote obviously don’t hate him enough.
But yeah once again we need to stop and think about US citizens while their country hurts someone else. Because they can’t get off their arse to vote.
There’s a reason people are tired of Americas shit.
They had an election where choices were “literally hitler, but orange” and “a woman who didn’t talk strong enough about palestine”.
And they chose Hitler.
it was mostly misogyny/.
Gerrymandering has no effect on presidential elections and bringing that up makes you look clueless.
its mostly done by extreme voter suppression by GOP controlled states, that where all the problems occur with voting.
Sure. But gerrymandering refers to redrawing congressional districts and has no effect on presidential elections.
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I personally am not their primary target yet, but this is the case for many American citizens and immigrants of any kind.
Of course, that is not the case for most Americans, but I’d wager there’s a huge overlap in “Americans on the fediverse” and “people likely to be close to the top of the out-groups list” Hell, my old highschool once made national news for a hate crime against an LGBT student. It’s a shit hole.
My point is, some of the people you are talking to here are likely also afraid for their lives.
Good point.
‘But stop and think about US citizens and their discomfort’
I don’t know how much of it is ai bots or propaganda or what, but most sources I have been able to track down have mostly celebrating Venezuelans. I know the country has not been a good place to live in over the past decade. US corporate is going to essentially own and swallow up the resources from there, but it won’t surprise me if the general population there has it easier for a while. See what kind of kangaroo government gets put in place down there and for how long the US is going to keep their governing thumb over the country.
Libians were celebrating too.
So do something.
It’s almost impossible to get the people of this country to do anything. Just 1 person is going to be sniped the second they even think to do anything. So far we’ve had a few try to fix this but they were caught or completely missed. The USA Is huge and it would take days for people on the west coast to get to the east coast where the important people are. Plus money, most of us are very poor and can’t even afford to travel that far. So we’re trying by protesting in our communities.
Nobody’s ever asked for more. Just be there. Block, obstruct, make your voice heard. Civil disobedience. Keep up the pressure. The punishment must follow their deeds at once, or they will never even consider toning down. Even if you cannot light up the powder keg, you can start 100 small fires. Metaphorically speaking.
We stand with you.
People on the west coast don’t have to travel to the east coast though
You want to quit being coy and say what you’re asking people to do?
That’s why it’s called the “ultimate sacrifice”. Right… After all I guess that American war saying was really no different than the idea the ayatollahs pushed.
sure are quite the keyboard warrior aren’t you? Maybe go outside for a bit and actually do something yourself.
Thanks I appreciate your feedback.
I can at the state level, and I have along with my fellow Californians. We can’t do anything to change DC for the foreseeable future.
We are.
You most certainly are not.
lol ok
No, you aren’t.