(full interview, his wife Cilia Flores can be seen in the backseat)

This comes despite N.Maduro agreeing to the u.s. pillaging their oil.

No point in arguing that it has nothing to do with drugs(, so many videos talking about it, Grayzone since 2020, even Rand Paul), not even western journalists seem to buy this lie.

They used their oil to improve the lives of their citizens instead of enriching only the wealthiest venezuelans complicit of this robbery by the u.s. for decades before Chávez. And then we(sterners) talk of sovereignty.

(source)
But i.m.o. oil is also an excuse, as it was for Iraq. The problem here is that socialism is contagious(, just like anti-zionism was contagious in the Middle-East).

Venezuela was set to lead latin american countries in economic growth, much more than the regional average of 2.9%, they survived the harshest phase, sanctions became inefficient, but the capitalists-owned empire doesn’t allow socialist countries to be successful :
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The worker’s exploitation has to continue at all costs and this is more important than anything, imagine if the wealthiest lost their passive income and had to work like everyone else, that’s what has always been fought against i.m.o., whether in the Cold War or as far as the discussions of the bourgeois during, e.g., the french revolution, on the importance of keeping the right of property.
We can’t build a world where everyone is ‘a capitalist’/‘exploiting other workers while lazing around’, that’s why they hate anarchy, or Venezuela.

Needless to point out that the US won’t suffer from “international”(western) sanctions, the assets of D.Trump and american oligarchs won’t be seized, there will be no sports/cultural/… boycott, closure of US medias, freezing of the bank accounts of pro-americans, …


(oops, sry)
An interesting account/website among others : https://venezuelanalysis.com/opinion/reimposing-democracy-in-venezuela-decoding-western-propaganda

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    This is the big thing here, liberals rely on Great Man Theory and assume Venezuela will fall from this. The people of Venezuela will not go quietly.

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    I know the fascists won’t care, but how will the libs react when losing Maduro doesn’t topple the “authoritarian Venezuelan regime” and the people stay loyal to the Bolivarian Revolution?

    (It’s a rhetorical question, I know they won’t even try, their brains will automatically sanitize such thoughts from entering their consciousness)

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      I’m hopeful that Venezuela’s socialist experience has guided them towards the development of a more resilient political framework compared to the fragile liberal democracies of the west. This will be the ultimate test for them, and here I am, hoping they succeed

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        One of the most important pillars, the military, is fully radicalized and committed to the Bolivarian revolution. That means the US can’t get away with this one without a fight.

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    My first emotional response is of course, wanting Venezuela to lash out against the US militarily, this is an act of war after all. But after thinking more rationally, maybe the US is doing this to demoralize Venezuelans, because they can’t sustain a prolonged war against Venezuela. They would have to support Ukraine, Israel and now a new war. It’s just not feasible, so I think they’re relying on intimidation tactics to accomplish their goal of regime change.

    Also, Maduro being kidnapped after trying to compromise with the US about Venezuelan oil, is a cautionary tale for world leaders who think they can negotiate with the empire. The empire does not negotiate, the empire does not compromise, the empire must take everything they possibly can.

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    I hope this doesn’t work. I don’t know what Trump thinks this will accomplish but I also don’t care: I hope Venezuela continues to resist even if Maduro himself tells them to stand down so he can keep his head or whatever.

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    Everytime this happens I keep wondering what it will take to convince the majority of westerners that the West and especially the US are the global aggressors. Liberals seem to be actually praising Trump for this, which of course isn’t a surprise

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    We should also mention that Maduro, Chavez and Venezuela have been very good on the subject of Palestine. The Zionazis have been trying to coup them for a while.

    Also pretty sold on the theory that Mossad killed Chavez since they have/had a weaponized radioactive dust program to assassinate people by giving them extremely aggressive cancer.

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    You can often hear the argument that the sanctions against Venezuela began after its economic crisis, whereas in fact they started when the oil’s crisis ended :
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    « According to the National Survey on Living Conditions (ENCOVI by its acronym in Spanish), an annual survey of living conditions administered by three Venezuelan universities, there was a 31% increase in general mortality from 2017 to 2018. This would imply an increase of more than 40,000 deaths. »
    https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/bfcVHBTZaQ
    More here :
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    « The Government’s revenue was reported to shrink by 99% with the country currently living on 1% of its pre-sanctions income. » — https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements-and-speeches/2021/02/preliminary-findings-visit-bolivarian-republic-venezuela-special
    Their foreign currency revenue also dropped.

    These numbers were now back to a million barrels per day and rapidly rising.
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    The truth is, of course, not that socialism never works, but that capitalists fear that socialism works so much that they fight it until it falls. That’s what they did/do with Cuba or the USSR.


    Other links :
    - John Bolton admitted that the US attempted at least once to coup N.Maduro in Trump’s first term : https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-national-security-adviser-john-bolton-admits-planning-foreign-c-rcna37968 ;
    - Not only does Venezuela has the world’s largest oil reserves, but also south america’s largest gold reserves ;
    - As easily debunkable as these accusations are, the official reason for a $50M bounty is narco-trafficking : 1000015178 ;
    - https://liberationnews.org/an-open-letter-to-the-american-people-from-president-nicolas-maduro
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    - multiple gestures since anticommunism/anti-‘worker’s liberation from exploitation’ is a bilateral policy, no need to enumerate all of his gestures towards peace, since nobody doubt that the u.s. attacked unprovoked ;
    - They claim that the sanctions caused them to lose more than $1.000 billions(!) ;
    - A twitter thread with a lot of informations : https://x.com/i/status/1827707466114568370 ;
    - On the accusations of fraud(, which aren’t related to the official accusations of narco-trafficking, necessary to present Venezuela’s existence as an attack to the USA), 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, …, that many disinformation to censor(, soon, they’re working on it) ;
    - Memories of Alex Saab(, infographic), hinting at a possible detente after 3 years and a half of incarceration, it didn’t last and neither did this after Russia’s oil ban ;
    - Don’t miss venezuelanalysis infographics : https://venezuelanalysis.com/category/infographics ;
    - A little victory

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    I’m certain that the US will install its puppet into power. This puppet will enact a brutal and bloody suppression and oppression against the Venezuelan people, especially those who oppose them.

    I wonder who the military are loyal to. Would the military side with the puppet regime to oppress the people?

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    The way this is being framed as “law enforcement” is wildly chauvinistic. What laws? I know I should be jaded and cynical and know to expect this nonsense, but I really didn’t see that one coming.

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      If I saw your comment earlier, I would have snapped at you in anger. Maduro is no coward and he did everything that he could to avoid this.

      Sadly, the imperialist have way more resources and collaborators to make this happen.

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      Banned for 30 days for lashing out in anger.
      I hope that the mods will reduce his sentence(, they pinned his post on Venezuela, and then ban him for a month for being angry at N.Maduro for not managing to avoid capture ?)

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        The way I see it (I don’t know how mod, or mods, saw it, am looking at it after the fact), the issue is that the comment was victim blaming and counter to solidarity during a crisis. Posting in anger is one thing, but directing that anger at the victim instead of the aggressor is… to put it in the most good faith terms I can think of at the moment, a confused way to direct anger.

        If nothing else, I will take this moment to remind people how important solidarity is in moments of crisis.

        Even when that solidarity has the character of struggle too:

        For instance, in the period of its first cooperation with the Communist Party, the Kuomintang stood in contradiction to foreign imperialism and was therefore anti-imperialist; on the other hand, it stood in contradiction to the great masses of the people within the country—although in words it promised many benefits to the working people, in fact it gave them little or nothing. In the period when it carried on the anti-Communist war, the Kuomintang collaborated with imperialism and feudalism against the great masses of the people and wiped out all the gains they had won in the revolution, and thereby intensified its contradictions with them. In the present period of the anti-Japanese war, the Kuomintang stands in contradiction to Japanese imperialism and wants co-operation with the Communist Party, without however relaxing its struggle against the Communist Party and the people or its oppression of them. As for the Communist Party, it has always, in every period, stood with the great masses of the people against imperialism and feudalism, but in the present period of the anti-Japanese war, it has adopted a moderate policy towards the Kuomintang and the domestic feudal forces because the Kuomintang has pressed itself in favour of resisting Japan. The above circumstances have resulted now in alliance between the two parties and now in struggle between them, and even during the periods of alliance there has been a complicated state of simultaneous alliance and struggle. If we do not study the particular features of both aspects of the contradiction, we shall fail to understand not only the relations of each party with the other forces, but also the relations between the two parties.

        https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-1/mswv1_17.htm

        Note: This is not to draw direct parallel to Venezuela, but to make the point that even when there is significant struggle and contradiction within being allies, the historical lesson is to navigate contradictions in order to overcome the greater contradiction, not intensify resentment when solidarity is needed.

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          well-written, comrade. i think 30 days is more punitive than constructive but this is a really good thing to hear

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        Yeah, 30 days is excessive IMO. Maybe to give him a mental break? I’m not confident any of us are thinking straight rn.