One is a truck made for actual work and the other is an abomination pretending to be a truck.
The second is basically a minivan, but the 3rd row is a truck bed.
My truck is kinda similar, but they just took a smaller suv and added a bed.
So why not just use the van? At least the cargo space is covered from the elements. Most people who drove these yank tanks don’t actually need the truck part.
So why not just use the van?
Using the right tool for the right job.
Open bed of a truck is very handy for very tall items or stuff that needs to be dumped like rocks, dirt etc… Or if your towing a very large load with goose neck trailer.
Not arguing that at all. But vans really aren’t much better from a fuel economy standpoint.
Actually minivans have more utility cause you could take out the middle row. And they had the sliding door and hatch and were more compact .
But only one can crush a toddler without you even feeling it.
Buy the new Ford Infanticide 5000. You’re American. You deserve it.
Not just toddlers. All children under ten are invisible!
Gotta appreciate the writers on GTA 6, reality is going to make that a really hard gig.
Also, one of these actually needs and uses the bed, the other one doesn’t.
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Towing capacity, payload weight, carrying 3 more people, bed width, drivetrain? I think many trucks are way too big, and it’s silly to own a big work truck if you just use it to go to the grocery store but it’s really about so much more than bed size.
Let’s be honest, most people with trucks that large rarely have passengers, rarely even approach the payload for the bed, and they never tow anything.
Yeah sure but I guess my point was that it’s a false equivalency. The truck on the right is massively more capable than the one on the left. I certainly don’t need one that big and most people don’t.
Yeah it’s about
BIG TRUCK MAKE ME FEEL LIKE MAN. MAKE ME FEEL LIKE BIG BOY. LOOK ME DRIVE BIG VEHICLE SO YOU KNOW I’M IMPORTANT.
LOOK AT ME!!!
Legit I know guys that don’t even need one for work or anything, just get one for ego
Maybe sometimes, but it’s also just a massively more capable vehicle. Sometimes the simplest answer is the truth.
It’s really not.
It’s about getting past emission standards and pandering to people who don’t understand enough is enough.
They’re also hazards as the increased hood length and height create massive blind spots that have caused a rise in collisions and deaths.
I think both are true. The truck on the right is super capable, and also dangerous, inefficient, unnecessary for most people.
Something tells me you have an oversized truck in your driveway…
I drive a VW golf and I love it.
carrying 3 more people
As a payload.
I’m not sure if you can fill it to load capacity even with lead bricks.
Or if you want to carry people, you can use this:
. For carrying not people you can remove seats. It’s even roughly same size.Oh, marshrutka
So many good memories, got replaced with better buses in my city
Bless your city. I know one city in Belgorod Oblast that still 100% microbuses.
But a van and a truck are used for different things. Your not going to see a van around the farm for example because it just isn’t that useful for farm work. Just like your not going to see a truck out delivering packages because it just isn’t the useful for that use case. Many of these vehicles have the exact same frame and engion just with a different body on top for whatever best fits the use case.
In addition to the payload. Payload goes in the back! Fill it with stones then put five men in it to shovel the stones. You’d need two vans for the same purpose. And if it’s roughly the same size, what’s the problem? Vans like that can be nice too, we see lots of Ford transits here in the states for tradesmen. Similar use case to what you’re describing.
This was my take. Considering the bed is wider and deeper, that black truck can literally hold 4x what the other truck carries.
Also from a quick google, I only see a single mini-truck retailer within 500 miles of me and they only sell very-used, with worse exhausts and MPGs than an F150.
Most people don’t need that bigger truck, but if they do that smaller truck won’t cut it.
Lol 100%. Per usual, this is a dumb fucking post from the Cars R Bad people.
Instead of making points about mass transit and infrastructure, they make arguments like this.
The result is everyone thinks you’re fucking retarded.
When my little 4-cylinder truck wore out in 2021, I looked so hard for one of the little kei trucks. But all of the ones I could find were $20k, or they were $15k and needed a lot of work to be driveable. And none of them were within 200 miles of my location.
I ended up with a used base-model F150 which only cost me $12k. It had 81k miles on it. As near as I can figure out, it started life as a rental truck for a hardware store called “Menards”. It has an 8ft bed, no carpet, no power locks, no power windows, no back seat, no touchscreen, and no color LCD screen in the gauge cluster. I use this truck for a small farm that my wife and I run, so it doesn’t get driven every day.
Im still looking for a kei truck, though.
Try carused.jp - they’ll find you a truck matching your requirements, arrange shipping and even customs.
I recommend Suzuki Carry da52t 4x4 - you should be able to get a low mileage one for 5-6k all in.
I think you mean carused.jp.
Yes, fixed. Thank you
The Suzuki Carry is the one I really wanted. I’ve a soft spot for tiny suzuki vehicles.
Every time I mention not being able to find one in early 2022, people come along to show me where I can get one now. The issue was, I couldn’t find one when I needed it.
If you still want one as indicated in the comment I responded to contact carused with what you want and they’ll notify you when it’s available
That’s a pretty great deal on an F150. Nice!
It was half the price of the next cheapest truck on the lot, and the next cheapest truck had twice the miles. But the next cheapest truck had all the whiz-bang fancy electronics, instead of being four wheels and a truck bed.
Yeah OK, but only in one of these trucks can I safely text and drive.
Cops 🕵️👀
Booze cruise
But since the kei truck cannot travel over 55 mph, that makes it more dangerous!
Yes but one is for work while the other is a compensation device
the larger one does do more:
- Pick up 3 extra people
- Can roll down the back window to let long planks of wood through
These are the only extra advantages I can see, and they are seldom use cases at best.
Fine, if you’re a contractor driving your workers to/from work whilst carrying all the equipment, on a daily basis, such a truck is very useful.
But how many people who drive these do that?
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- Pick up 20 extra people
- Or pick up 30 extra people if some of them can stay
- Have enclosed trunk(you still can leave doors in the back open)
- Lower bed
- Can carry bigger payloads
fair point, plus it’s cheaper
The 3 extra people is a valid reason to not want the smaller truck. Still wouldn’t need to be so monstrous.
Yeah, but which one will make women think my penis is huge?
Front one, dude
A truck like the front one is driven by someone with nothing to prove.
You’re right! It’s true! Little cars make penises look bigger based on relative sizes!
No no no but which one will make his BUDDIES insecure. That’s the kicker.
Given the stereotype, I guess the tiny truck?
Ever wonder why this thing can only go 55 MPH? Yup, my Magnum dong! Nothing slows down a truck like moving around that hunk of meat, let me tell you! Now about our date.
Because your dick is always a ratio of your car size
inverse ratio
Why don’t we have ratios for other things besides dick size though?
Bank account
Rudeness
Self insecurity
Here you go with a few
Nah those things are too wishy washy, bank account I can kinda understand but there’s a lot of rich dumb cunts, just look at Trump
Yep inherited wealth lasts just as long
Anyway he’s not my problem I live somewhere else. I still cringe though when he opens his mouth.
Here are a couple of videos explaining why we can’t have small trucks.
Car manufacturers can make more money per vehicle on large trucks. So I’m curious what influence their lobiests had on this.
He kind of touches base on that in the second video. But it definitely plays a part.
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willing to bet the driver of the tiny truck has a bigger… ahem
Fuel range? Yea probably
It’s penis. He means penis. Like, probably the length and girth of his penis. No one ever mentions penis color or how hairy it is (those are Jeep guys), just always the size.
or how hairy it is (those are Jeep guys)
how would you know?
It’s a jeep thing
It’s a jeep thing
you mentioned that. my questions was how would you know that?
waves hands External spare wheel, spare pubes. All connected.
Death wish? I love kei trucks but I fear getting into a mash up in one of them.
*nervous laughter in cyclist*
Exactly. Death wish is inversely proportional to vehicle size.
Better to get the one that’s specifically designed to kill toddlers then. If children have to die so you can be less scared of a “mash up” then it’s all worth it.
specifically designed to kill toddlers
“Lead designer to ensure child lethality” is such a badass job title.
American 🫵😐
Typical “Everyone drives a big truck so I will too!” mindset that misses the core issue on why kei trucks are the better ones. You simply can’t imagine a world where the Ford Death Cruiser 4 billion doesn’t exist.
Japan, the country that invented kei cars, also has larger cars. You’re not looking at the same chance as running into a hummer, but crashing a kei car into a white plate out here still doesn’t look good for the kei.
In kei trucks and other models where the engine is behind you, a crash is gonna fuck you up, no matter what country you’re in or what you hit.
Japanese lower speed limits help. Also, few people in Japan are driving long distances in these things.
Sure, but they’re not banned from highways. It’s not uncommon to see them, although you’re right about lower speed limits-- a lot of highways are about 80 km max
2 wheels for me please.
But, thank you for taking the time on that well thought out, informative post.
If I want to get a small truck or something similar what can you recommend that’s available in North America? (Serious)
Ones readily available include but are not limited to: Ford Maverick (getting great reviews), Toyota Tacoma, Ford Ranger.
Tbh I wouldn’t mess with much of anything else because they tend to be of questionable quality and/or look stupid.
Yikes?! A Ford RANGER is considered a small truck to you?? They’re part of the growing plague of stupidly large trucks in my part of the world!? :-/ I mean I knew the US had big trucks but I never thought the Ranger would be considered the small alternative?! We’re so screwed?! :-(
I saw a 90s ranger next to a new one and the new ranger looks like the size of a 90s f150.
It’s so shocking?! I’m looking at a Ranger out in the car park right now and trying to imagine something bigger parked out there?! It wouldn’t fit within the bounds of the parking space?! Already if there were two Rangers parked next to each other there wouldn’t be enough room to walk between them, even if you turned side on :-/ Let alone having room to be able to open the door and get in & out?!
In fact I can see that it’s had a flow on effect whereby every other parked car has had to park on the extreme edge of their space to allow room to open the door and get out. If there was one more Ranger anywhere along the line someone would be likely blocked from getting in or out of their car!
Yea all thes suggestions are huge compared to an s10 or ranger or other light truck up til the late 2000s. I hate it so much.
The Ranger in the 80s and 90s was a perfectly reasonable size. The new ones are gigantic next to them, but they’re still smaller than almost anything available in the North American market.
As I stated…it’s what’s available in the US. It’s only bigger from there.
The Tacoma is definitely not a smaller truck.
It is one of the smallest available in US. Of course I’m referring to Tacoma with a standard cab, not the People Hauler 5000 it’s basically a minivan crew cab configuration.
The Tacoma would actually be my pickup of choice. I hate the modern styling, but the Toyota build is just so solid & Ford as of late has been disappointing. To say the least. The green movement is not only based on size, but how durable a product is & if it can last for many, many years of reliable operation. Unfortunately we do not have Hilux, but Tacoma is America’s version of Hilux.
Check out the Hyundai Santa Cruz. It’s a smaller truck, but it can pull 3500lb.
Now this is just personal taste, but I really don’t like the looks of that truck. Cosmetically, I put it on the same level as the Chevy Colorado. Generally speaking, Hyundai isn’t known for quality builds like Toyota, not even close.
That said: the new Hyundai Elantra makes the short list of vehicles I’d be interested in, buying new. Scotty Kilmer praises its naturally aspirated, non-turbo engine & traditional build components. Thinks it could last a long time. 👍🏻
You can buy a really old small truck.
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Loved me my '86 Ford Ranger. 4 cylinder, 5 speed, am radio, jump seats in the back, extended box. Cost C$3000 in 1998.
My dad bought a 2021 Ranger. It’s bigger than the F-150 from 1998. Insanity.
My neighbor spent about $20k buying a late 90s model Tacoma.
True, but the older ones are so much simpler to work on.
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Nah mate. I have a Colorado that I’ve actually used a lot and it’s still not good enough
Hyundai Santa Cruz (which I own), or the Ford Maverick.
How do you like the Santa Cruz. I’m really interested in it.
I love it so far, especially now that I got a bed extender so I can haul full sheets of plywood and such.
It’s got a ton of power under the hood. I average around 26/30mpg, but my wife averages 28/32-35mpg
It’s really roomy inside too. I’m 6’3 and this is the first vehicle I’ve driven where I didn’t have to move the seat all the way back. And people are able to sit comfortably behind me.
I highly recommend trying to get one with the tourneau cover on the bed, because it’s amazing. But don’t get the trailer hitch from them. You can save $3-400 having a local mechanic do it.
My only real gripes are that the AC blows too hard on its lowest setting (for me) if just the upper vents are blowing. The ride is also pretty smooth, so I often catch myself speeding without realizing it. Also that the steering wheel controls don’t have a play/pause button.
Nice. ok, I’ll probably check it out next week.
Ford Maverick or Hyundai Santa
FeCruz are basically the only 2 optionsI think you mean Santa Cruz? The sante fe is/was an suv
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*Santa Cruz
I’d skip the Santa Cruz largely since Hyundai/Kia are experts at cost-cutting that blows up big in customer faces down the line. (anti-theft, engines, warranty work, wiring, etc.) but your options are already limited so I wouldn’t blame you for getting it. I’d get the base engine/transmission though if you anticipate stop/go traffic or off-road use since the dual-clutch in the upper engine option is better than dry clutch models but IMHO still suspect.
I would lean towards the Maverick but neither are really “small” since they’re still pretty long.
There’s the Transit Connect if you want a cargo van that’s compact.
New? Hyundai santa cruz is probably your best bet.
If you are okay with older/used vehicles i would look for a japan import garage/dealership
(Im in canada but have seen many of these types of places across the country that import those small trucks)
No clue why people buy kei cars from Japan when they can pick up the left hand drive version of the kei cars from Taiwan.
I don’t get where all the chunkiness came from. Even ignoring the bed length and width, what is all that extra height doing?
EPA regulations that car manufacturers used as a way to game the system by not focusing on ICE efficency, hybridization, transitioning to electric sooner.
This is the same reason sedans have gotten larger or disappeared in favor of “cross-overs”.
Making insecure men feel better about themselves.
And they look to have the same/comparable ride height/total height
