• ms.lane@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    ‘Condom Tax’ is sensationalist BS.

    Previously under the 1-child policy, Condoms had a specific exemption from tax, that’s been removed and now they fall under the same taxes as other goods.

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      3 hours ago

      These days I’d take living in China instead of living in the US, especially if I’m thinking of having kids.

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    9 hours ago

    Chinese people pay a 13% sales tax on contraceptives from 1 January

    I seriously doubt that that’s going to have a major impact.

    Observers appear divided on the aim of the tax overhaul. The idea that a tax hike on condoms will impact birth rates is “overthinking it”, says demographer Yi Fuxian from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

    He believes Beijing is keen to collect taxes “wherever it can” as it battles a housing market slump and growing national debt.

    Consumption taxes are regressive, but sometimes they can be more politically-viable if they can be presented as fighting social ills.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax

    A sin tax (also known as a sumptuary tax, or vice tax) is an excise tax specifically levied on certain goods deemed harmful to society and individuals, such as alcohol, tobacco, drugs, soft drinks, sugar, fast foods, fat, meat, gambling, vaping, cannabis (wherever legal for recreational use) and pornography.[1]

    In contrast to Pigouvian taxes, which are to pay for the damage to society caused by these goods, sin taxes increase the price in an effort to decrease the use of these goods. Increasing a sin tax is often more popular than increasing other taxes. However, these taxes have often been criticized for burdening the poor and disproportionately taxing the physically and mentally dependent.[2]

    • Kirp123@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      It’s gonna escalate to bans pretty soon when they realize taxing it alone doesn’t work.

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Maybe make life suck less so they have time and energy to be horny rather than make life suck more:

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      12 hours ago

      Not the Chinese way. They’ll be forcing opposite sex marriage or jail pretty soon.

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    Yeah, good luck with that. Still gonna be cheaper to pay that tax than to have a kid, never mind the lack of time for said kids due to their infamous 996 work week. They’re trying to manipulate people instead of addressing the real problems keeping them from wanting to have kids. Typical authoritarian mindset.

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      10 hours ago

      The pull out method doesn’t work.

      I know this because I have a friend who swears by it. He has four ooops-babies.

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        More reliable than the pill if you can’t trust the person taking it.

        Source: one oops-baby from “yes I’m on the pill”. None from pulling out.

        I’m convinced most people who have babies with the pull out method didn’t actually pull out in time. There is of course extra risk if you ejaculate and then go for another round without clearing the pipes first.

        Don’t rely on any of this though. I know people who do it with strangers too. I’ve only ever really done it in relationships where if there’s a baby eventually, it’s not the end of the world.

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          I got my partner pregnant from penetration without ejaculation. We would fuck a bit then put on a condom to finish. Turns out that doesn’t work reliably (not a huge problem for us, since we were planning on having a kid a few months later anyway).

  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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    10 hours ago

    Honestly most countries that fails to bring their birthrate back to the early 90s level will be pushed out of relevancy in our lifetimes

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      I doubt it. Birthrates across the world have been steadily going down. At the moment it’s mostly developing countries that have the highest birth rates but as their standards of living go up their birthrates will drop, it’s a well documented fact.

      You’re also discounting migration, people will migrate from countries with high birthrates to ones with lower ones and blunt the effects.

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        2 hours ago

        If the country allows such migration, which seems to be increasingly used as a political tool for ideologies not all that well-rooted in reality.