I haven’t read this study but what matters to me is, are these same men catcallers themselves? Most men I know don’t catcall and already understand it’s unpleasant so I’m not surprised this is their reaction
There’s a numerical asymmetry to stuff like this. You could have only 1 in 1000 men be catcallers yet a single catcaller could catcall thousands of women on their way to work (stereotypically from a construction site as they walk by).
Having done construction with temps who did this, they indeed catcall anything that looks like a female. 2 different people were like this and i yelled at both to no avail. They were also just ahitty people to even talk to. I had both of them black listed after one day.
Idk why but when i read this, then reread everything else i said, you just sounded like the sassy black girl i work with and i couldn’t help but smile.
I’ve known quite a few people over the years who fit that description, and I can’t remember a single one I didn’t think very highly of, so I’ll take that as a big complement (despite very much not fitting that description myself).
Construction often ends up with the worst sorts of people. I have multiple friends and family who have worked in the business and they’ve dealt with people who would regularly no-show (not even call in sick), show up drunk, high on meth, and do all kinds of dangerous / stupid stuff including throwing heavy tools down from upper floors, walking around without paying attention (and falling off scaffolding etc).
My uncle also had to deal with mafia guys involved with construction unions.
I completely agree. Ive worked with both types but i dont think the problematic ones are always non adhd. It has to deal with how much meth you consume, because one meth is fine for anyone. But five meths is to much for anyone.
One hundred percent agree with you and have experienced the catcalling from the receiving end. But I don’t see how the study does anything useful or state something new. Now if they said the men involved were catcallers, that’d be interesting. I would imagine catcallers would not care about the women if they participated in a study like this
I haven’t read this study but what matters to me is, are these same men catcallers themselves? Most men I know don’t catcall and already understand it’s unpleasant so I’m not surprised this is their reaction
The study checked this and found that the participants claimed to have no history of catcalling.
The study was intended to see if men would experience greater empathy with women following a VR experience of catcalling.
Peer pressure is a real thing and telling other men that their behaviour is not OK can have real impact.
There’s a numerical asymmetry to stuff like this. You could have only 1 in 1000 men be catcallers yet a single catcaller could catcall thousands of women on their way to work (stereotypically from a construction site as they walk by).
Having done construction with temps who did this, they indeed catcall anything that looks like a female. 2 different people were like this and i yelled at both to no avail. They were also just ahitty people to even talk to. I had both of them black listed after one day.
Well done. Thank you.
Idk why but when i read this, then reread everything else i said, you just sounded like the sassy black girl i work with and i couldn’t help but smile.
Glad I bring good memories and associations.
I’ve known quite a few people over the years who fit that description, and I can’t remember a single one I didn’t think very highly of, so I’ll take that as a big complement (despite very much not fitting that description myself).
Construction often ends up with the worst sorts of people. I have multiple friends and family who have worked in the business and they’ve dealt with people who would regularly no-show (not even call in sick), show up drunk, high on meth, and do all kinds of dangerous / stupid stuff including throwing heavy tools down from upper floors, walking around without paying attention (and falling off scaffolding etc).
My uncle also had to deal with mafia guys involved with construction unions.
The ones on meth are some of the best workers though. Get them on a task and it goes by fast.
If they’ve got ADHD. Then the meth is literally self-medicating them and allowing them to function. Non-ADHD people on meth are a different story.
I completely agree. Ive worked with both types but i dont think the problematic ones are always non adhd. It has to deal with how much meth you consume, because one meth is fine for anyone. But five meths is to much for anyone.
One hundred percent agree with you and have experienced the catcalling from the receiving end. But I don’t see how the study does anything useful or state something new. Now if they said the men involved were catcallers, that’d be interesting. I would imagine catcallers would not care about the women if they participated in a study like this