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I’m going to be that guy about GMO crops. If we were modifying them to be drought resistant or need less water, I’d be all for it. Instead, what we modify them for is to be “roundup ready” meaning that glyphosate can be sprayed liberally on it without killing it making weeding the field much easier. I am not concerned about the GMO crop, but I am concerned with all my food being covered in Roundup.
You’re absolutely not alone with GMO concerns.
Celiac enters the chat.Sounds right
Does that mean that the people who got an A in biology are more right than people who got a B in biology?
that’s the same people who later get to helm companies and say “who the fuck needs market research when you have the force of will”
The sad thing is those people did take those classes.
I think equally important as teaching these things to begin with is letting students know when they’re being taught a simplified model, and that serious academic discourse of the subject is still evolving and/or involves much more nuance (which is pretty much always). some people who do pay attention in science classes nonetheless think that what they learned is gospel and never re-examine it, or stubbornly refuse to acknowledge when said nuance is relevant because it seems to contradict the simplified model they’ve cemented in their brain as the whole truth. the kind of people who say things like “I know there’s two genders because I learned it in high school biology” and apparently never considered why there would be collegiate and post-graduate studies on biology and gender (or why those are two entirely different fields of study) if we all already learned everything there is to know in high school.
I think chemistry is APPALLINGLY bad at this to be honest.
As a kid I always thought a lot of stuff taught was like, duh, so obvious. It took being thrown in the adult world to see hmm… I guess… not obvious enough???
Real talk: those “boring” science classes aren’t about memorizing facts — they teach you how to spot bad claims and check sources. That skill pays off forever.
To be fair, most schools give those classes only out of obligation. Doing dumb calculations of mols and atomic masses in high school is definitely teaching kids to ask “why the fuck am I even doing this?”
Kids are wired to ask that, so what, basic chemistry knowledge is extremely useful.
Learning some chemistry basics is probably still good though. Not that we’re using it daily but just in the “hey mixing this stuff can kill you” or, in the same vein, seeing how it only requires small amounts to make big changes.
We’re surrounded by chemicals in our everyday lives, learning a healthy fear of them is probably for the best.
Also high school is meant to prepare you for further education, if you want to pursue that, so it really does cover a lot of ground for basic concepts you need to learn to understand and gain further education in whatever field applies.
Yeah, like an German Comedian said, while the Teacher shows how an Morse communication works, the childrens with their Smartphones already are logged in his Pacemaker.
Vaccines could cause autism since they contain immune system steroids, and should probably not be given to people who haven’t reached adulthood. Anyone who is a decent mother has probably thought about this. GMOs can also be dangerous although not likely, outside of fats, your bodies tends to break down other things. Flat earth is a troll. Climate change is real but the solutions people have for dealing with it are stupid, annoying, intrusive, and impractical. Cars get shittier year after year because of the stupid laws, meanwhile the human population is exploding.
Also don’t tell me I don’t understand the science because I do. I just figure out things myself instead of trusting corporations and social media companies. People who unironicly think that vaccines are safe did not form that conclusion by, “understanding the science”. They came to that conclusion because some other liberal corporatists told them too. It is true vaccines will cause the cow herd to be a bit more resilient, but also if that comes at the cost of the brain and mental health, then no that’s fucking stupid. Sure to corporations having bodies is probably the best thing for them. They need as many workers as possible, but from a human standpoint, there is nothing more valuable than your mind. Don’t waste your children’s minds to make cattle for corporations.
Vaccines could cause autism since they contain immune system steroids…
Source, LIAR?
Well it’s beyond current scientific understanding so there wouldn’t be a source. How could you ask for a source on something that is undefined like autism? I hope you realize that anyone who tries to make scientific claims on the basis of autism is lying to you. This is because autism is not understood scientifically. Those people are trying to steal the valor of actual science to use as some authority to convince people dumber then themselves that they are correct.
But yes vaccines do cause autism in some cases. The reason I know this is because I am a researcher and I study many things and I have spent many years investigating these things and I don’t get any money from the corporate or pharmacological world. The people who make vaccines including the scientists also know this but won’t say it because they don’t want to lose their six or seven figure incomes. They see the side effects of vaccines as acceptable given their benefits. Maybe 1 out of 100 to 1 out of 1000 people who use vaccines might develop complications but it will probably save more than 1% of the population.
Autism is also caused by a wide range of things. Anything that disrupts the immune system or its signals can cause it. Being inside buildings exposed to synthetic materials too often can cause it. Taking antiinflammatory medications can cause it. Your mother having too many sexual partners can cause it. Donald Trump’s speech causes it. Eating too much artificially flavored food that has no nutrition can cause it. The biggest cause however is by far parental neglect. Buying shitty food, leaving kids inside all day, not having good ventilation in the interior spaces. If it turns out that vaccines cause autism at a fairly high rate, then it might turn out that the pragmatist ethics behind covering up vaccine side effects were a terrible idea.
Autism I believe, I’m not 100%, is often caused by a destruction of the bodies ability to regulate its own epibiome and immune responses. This leads to reduced neural function, particularly in high functioning areas of the brain, which causes the symptoms associated with autism.
You will never really see an autistic wild dog because it lives in nature and it’s body is good at upregulating and down regulating it’s immune response and dealing with inflammation. Many humans have lost this ability and can easily die from minor wounds like scraps.
Autism like many other gigantic blanket terms used for things barely understood by humans, like the brain, can be caused by a very wide number of things. Fundamentally however it’s just the epigenetic equivalent of limp mode.
I have managed to cure a case or two of autism in my time through many years of therapy designed to fix the immune systems of people. It takes years because after fixing the immune system it takes years for the brain’s proteins to be replaced. Vaccines are probably pretty low on the list of what actually causes autism. The most consistent effects I have found are scizo effective disorder. People who horde stuff, never let their kids outside, obsessively takenmedication and believe that medicine is like God or something. In cases where I find people with autism is almost always the parents fault. They have bad hygiene, use lots of pesticides and chemicals around children, have mold in their house cuz of the schizo typical symptoms like paranoia and stuff, and helicopter parent their kids even into their 20s and 30s. These kids also typically never had any variation or resitence to their body. It’s never had to adapt or change really. They never went a day without a meal for example. Things like this are actually bad for your immune system because it doesn’t get to learn how to deal with different circumstances.
Anyways I doubt you will consider any of this, but I did my part by attempting to make people aware.
What world do you live in. How do you even come up with this stuff
Use that creativity for writing stories and shit, not lying on the Internet
I am a researcher…
So am I! Except I’m not full of shit!
lol, no source! What a maroon.
Prime example of lying liars continuing to lie. Wonder why measles is making a comeback? Look no further!
Thank you for all your misinfo!
no.
steroids are a specific thing, and are not used in vaccines. steroids can’t cause autism even if that was the case. vaccines can not cause autism at all. vaccines work by incapacitating a viral or bacterial agent, sprinkling some red flags on it and dumping it in your system for the immune system to stumble across
autism is a developmental issue, either selected genes at conception mess with developmental plans, or something interrupts development before birth. vaccines do not have a chance to be administered before that period is over.
also!
GMO’s are a meaningless designation to determine harm in any regard. all it dictates is whether humans have in any fashion altered the organism. you might as well have said “red foods can also be dangerous although not likely”
also,
there are people who do believe in flat earth, because otherwise their religion is false.
Tbf this does kind of imply we are doing something wrong. Maybe instead we should teach people to learn and judge information, rather than train them to take information presented to them at face value.
There are as many irrational science fanatics as there are religious fanatics.
There are as many irrational science fanatics as there are religious fanatics.
I really doubt that.
Also, how are they to judge information presented to them if there is no agreed upon valid source?
Loooooool
And billionaires love people like that because it keeps the most obsessive of us focused away from the greed.
LOL, school curriculums are part of the “billionaire conspiracy” too?
FFS.
They are saying people who don’t understand high school basics are useful idiots for billionaires because they’re easily manipulated
Nothing about a school curriculum conspiracy was mentioned, so it’s especially weird that you put billionaire conspiracy in quotes
As someone aware of decades of legal battles to prevent the gutting of education systems, usually noticeable around local levels, you almost always end up at corpo think tanks like the heritage foundation.
If you’re familiar with the heritage foundation, they’ve been trying to run a project2025 style playbook for decades, and it is only through their success that current administration is a billionaire playground. Reminder that elon musk could directly choose for hundreds of thousands of children to die this year by taking aware their food and medicine, because he wanted to. Also billionaires got an unimaginably generous treatment at the same time, worth much more than all of the food and medicine.
It’s more an amalgam of cooperatively evil assholes, most of which have an absurd amount of money for some reason, but yeah, billionaires are a good chunk of why there are whole groups being funded to spend all day every day trying to kneecap educational efforts, or painting academics as evil satanists who are corrupting your children with science.
Internet contains the whole knowledge of humanity… the other 98% are influencers, ChatGPT posts, memes, cat photos, fake news, bots and flat earthers.
I thought Interned contained mostly porn :D
And cat pics.
Similar to memes
Very wise
There is so incredibly much knowledge that isn’t on the internet.
The “do your own research” people need to have it explained to them that even experts in their respective fields aren’t automatically capable of parsing scientific literature. A family doctor with 50 years experience who prescribes antidepressants every day will have no deep understanding of what any particular scientific peer reviewed study on SSRIs is telling them. They need a grounding in statistics more than anything else, which most people just don’t have. So the idea that a non-educated, non-scientist can read peer reviewed studies and come away from them with some sort of understanding of the issue is the thing that needs to be highlighted, preferably in high school science class (earlier, frankly). A willingness to slog through scientific papers in pursuit of deeper knowledge is admirable, but is dangerously misguided without proper training. I don’t even mean training in the specific science, but just in how to speak the language of peer reviewed studies more generally. It’s very much its own discipline.
I want someone to ask Joe Rogan what ‘regression to the mean’ means. I want someone to ask him what a ‘standard deviation’ is and how to apply the concept. I don’t want to know what papers he’s read, because you could read 50 true scientific papers a day on one topic and still have no idea what the current scientific consensus is on said topic, absent the requisite training. You’ll almost certainly come away from it with a very wrong but very confident belief. Dunning-Kruger on steroids.
Hard disagree, if research findings were more accessible, NOT PAYWALLED, and published with some degree of intent for a wide audience then WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more people would dabble in reading scientific research and the benefit could have potentially saved science from such rapid collapse in my country (the US).
The ‘research’ that the “do your own research” people are referring to isn’t peer reviewed scientific literature.
It’s other fools’ social media rantings.
rong? like the estonian word for train?
I hated chemistry in school, because it was teaching us irrelevant shit like the electron structure of atoms. But when I’m interested in something, I’ll look it up, and may get lost in a Wikipedia wormhole for hours about the most random topics. (some recent ones were: image file formats, the history of feminism, Serengeti National Park)
Imho the difference all lies in when knowledge is shoved down our throats vs exploring it out of curiosity.
I hated chemistry in school, because it was teaching us irrelevant shit like the electron structure of atoms.
It’s only unimportant because you don’t care. Reading random facts on Wikipedia isn’t learning, it’s just reading. You can read the Wikipedia page on juggling, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggling) but I wouldn’t expect you to understand (much less, perform) a 3 ball cascade, reverse cascade and waterfall after just reading the page. Those are very basic juggling patterns and fundamentals to more advanced patterns, such as juggler’s tennis, mills mess, boston mess etc… and that’s the difference between learning, and reading.
Not ripping on going on a Wikipedia dive here, it’s one of my favorite things to do, but recognize that it’s not the same as learning
I used to think like this until I found out you can explain a lot of chemical interactions by just knowing how the electron structure of atoms lead to those reactions. Helpful when you try to wonder if anything could be toxic.
It’s funny how as adults we become interested in elements of stuff we were taught and found boring before. But I’m not sure how you’d teach science without “shoving it down people’s throats” because most teenagers simply don’t give a shit about any of it, so pretty much anything you teach will be shoving it down someone’s throat. The better solution would be explaining why electron structure is important foundational stuff. About 98% of the time, in HS, they didn’t explain why we needed to know it, how it would be contextualized in later life - it was simply “learn this so you can pass next week’s test.” And for me, knowing why is crucial to me caring enough to learn.
