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i wonder why after the blacklash of brave no one attempted to fork it.(ik it was forked only once).
I’m hoping something happens with Ladybird eventually, but who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Careful. Trying to sell Brave as a homophobe web browser won’t hurt it like you guys think.
I only stopped using Firefox when an update broke GPU acceleration on my PC. Would be happy to switch back if it gets fixed, but it seems they’re more interested in adding AI slop, which doesn’t bode well for the last bastion of anti-Google monopoly resistance. 🤷
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Same reason they used Chrome. “What else is there?”
Software discoverability is kind of bad these days, and getting worse.
I used brave for a while, I got 10$ I also got 10$ from Honey, apparently only scams give me anything
Any alternative on iOS and android? Can’t find any good one… And I’m a GOS user very privacy aware but honestly brave is the only browser I know that blocks ads
Chromium based browsers have no cookie isolation like FF with multi account containers. They recommend Profiles but a separate window eats way more RAM and the experience is just much worse. I use Zen
I think the only real solution to protect ourselves is to stop using any browsers.
I used to use brave when I just started becoming privacy aware. Here are the reasons why:
- it’s chromium based. I loved the way chromium based browsers looked, especially when compared to Firefox. They had a comforting feel to them, whereas Firefox had a very “office-ey” feel to it.
- I wasn’t aware of the issues of chromium dominating the market share that it does and how monopolization in this manner can be harmful.
- I wasn’t aware of the people behind brave.
- I had seen older people use Firefox (with the default UI, which I didn’t like). That’s why, I associated Firefox with “old and outdated”. I hadn’t seen anyone use brave, and it looked quite good at the time for me.
Now, I use Mercury, a Firefox fork (ikik, it hasn’t seen an update in a long time, shush). I’ve loaded it up with my custom CSS, so its appearance is exactly the way I like.
Peter Theil is the primary investor in Brave.
For those not in the know, Peter Theil is a MAGA Christian-Nationalist fascist, and owner of Palantir.
Palantir, is the military industrial complex company Trump has entrusted to create a mass surveillance network on US citizens, completely against the 4th Amendment, and dwarfing the NSA spying that was exposed by Snowden.
You can garuntee any activity you do in Brave is being tracked and sent to that network.
People here up upvoting baseless conspiracies based on a braindead notice that technology is like magic.
If everything was tracked and harvested by Brave, it’d destroy them much more than the bullshit “homophobe” allegation. Just use network traffic monitors to see if it does. You think people haven’t tried?
Or do you think software can covertly send data without users being able to determine?
It’s open source for fucks sake. Stop with the Alex Jones tier analysis.
You can garuntee any activity you do in Brave is being tracked and sent to that network.
Source:??? BTW, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JNg4Ox2Hvc
As much as palantir and brave are both pieces of shit, I agree a claim like that needs a source and proof. This is all highly measurable, so proof should be something easy to obtain and reproduce.
A two year old video, when one of those years is 2025, is not a counterpoint either.
Now both of us will of course be downvoted to oblivion by the “I don’t need proof to hate palantir” crowd, but hating palantir is not proof. We have proof of their other crimes.
you only have three downvotes. maybe the kids are alright? XD
Yeah I think they all switched to another post where I asked for proof of a similar claim.
The rule for preventing downvoters is if you call it out before your first downvote then it will usually not happen. Once you get a few the mob will keep adding them regardless of anything else, afterwards. It’s just dumb mob mentality. I successfully blocked it here but it doesn’t always work. People aren’t smart.
There are no kids on Lemmy, lol
lol yeah, you right XD
There is no ethical consumption, so I’ll use whatever works. Brave works. In fact, its search engine works very well. While I don’t currently use its crypto stuff, it was an interesting idea to combat ads while allowing the user to still reward creators.
That said, I also use firefox. 🤷♀️
Literally just use Firefox for Android with uBlock. People act like this is difficult.
I’ve seen the following types of people:
- People who ask how to do it, and get amazed.
- People who legitimately are not bothered by ads.
- Who think it to be a “headache”, and to just “let it be”.
- Who are incredibly tech illiterate to the point of frustration.
I’ve been on Firefox since the very, very, very earliest days, back from when it started as Phoenix. I’ve been diehard believer in Firefox from Day 1.
But as usage has declined (and declined), many websites that I actually need to use no longer test for Firefox. A key website I use doesn’t allow me to log in with Firefox. Not as a “we don’t support Firefox” but quite literally it doesn’t work.
I’m all for flying the banner but I can’t live with a browser that no longer works on the websites I need. And yes, I’ve filed a bug, but because it relates to a login Mozilla closed it (they can’t verify logging in to this website).
I happen to be moving my account to a different website so I may be able to dodge it this time but Firefox really is sinking and at what point does one choose to abandon the ship?
Name and shame those sites. Those sites are the problem not firefox.
You’re not wrong. But I’m not on social media so have no channels to shout on. I doubt any newspaper would accept a reader contribution about this.
Name them here
*uBlock Origin
and then disable your YouTube app and save a link to webpage to your home screen. I haven’t seen a YouTube ad in years with this method.
Or just use ReVanced. Use microG for non rooted phones.
Freetube
There’s also PipePipe, which also does SponsorBlock so that you don’t have to see sponsor segments in videos
Freetube has sponsor block built in
Oh, nice. I didn’t know that.
I think it’s been in the last year or so maybe? It was the last big feature iirc before they had to spend their time fighting google block fires.
It’s not a difficulty issue It’s that lots of us have tried Firefox and don’t like it.
Personally I don’t use Firefox because it is buggy, is missing critical features, implements some web standards weirdly and has weird user agent styles. The end result is that many websites don’t look right and don’t work correctly and/or fully
Buggy? Huh.
Interesting. I use Firefox for everything and haven’t had any issues. Maybe I’m just not that picky?
They’re pretty much just hating to hate or basing themselves on very outdated information, ‘missing critical features’ is a joke, because if it actually were critical it would’ve been implemented already (plus firefox is very extensible, with many plugins existing and forks adding specific features), if they actually had a point they maybe would’ve given a single example.
Weirdly implementing some web standards kinda did apply a bit until a few years ago where all the big browser engine developers got together and pinned down the standard. If something still breaks that probably means the website used some out-of-spec workaround that only works in Chrome. Some things do indeed behave differently between firefox and chrome (an example of my own: file input fields with multiple types, eg allow both video and image are handled differently at least in the mobile apps). Yet again if they had a point maybe an example would’ve been great.
Weird user agent styles?..?? I’m just confused honestly.
Me too
I do this as much as possible. However the Firefox in-page translation software seems to do something that actually changes the page (and this can break things like forms) whereas chromium browsers do some kind of translation layer on top, so the page can run normally beneath it.
It’s an infuriating reason but right now it means I have to split my browser use depending on if I need translations or not.
You know you can install the “chromium-like” translation thing on Firefox as well, as an extension? E.g. this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/traduzir-paginas-web/
Is that new in the last couple years or so? I recall chrome breaking form entry left and right when translating before i could read the language.
Not available for IOS. For android firefox is bad at sandboxing and security. Vanadium if it had adblocking would be perfect for me.
Objectively more insecure and underperformant than ANY other chromium based browser.
Lmao, never have I ever seen a lemmy comment ratio’d this bad
Got a source for that incredible claim?
If you’re going to make wild claims that most people would disagree with, you better be able to back it up with objective facts
I just searched for
chrome vs firefoxand just about every article from the past year or so say firefox is more secure. Not that it matters a lot either way. Two party system is crap.How so? at least on Android and Linux there is a lack of sandboxing and site isolation. This could be fixed up to a certain point but anyways it would be more insecure than chromium.
Firefox uses literally the Chromium sandbox on Linux, they have for years.
Do you have a more recent article describing that? 2022 is old but I’ve not seen anything backing up your claim either
To the dumbass downvoters: why does lemmy hate the concept of backing up claims so much? There are two conflicting claims, one that says Linux sandbox is bad, another saying its fine. I’ll believe the first person who can actually back their shit up. Nobody should believe either claim until then. This isn’t complicated.
that’s why ironfox is so valuable
The problem with iron fox is that it’s so hardened about privacy that it breaks functionality l, for example you can’t even use add-ons if you don’t enable it first, it is disabled by default…
Bullshit (except maybe on Linux, I have no idea if they’ve fixed their shit there)
Personally as long as I’m not contributing to their wealth in some way I don’t think it really matters what the CEO of the company that makes a product does. I’m mostly just going to use the best product for me. Now there is an argument that simply by using it I’m contributing to their usage numbers which helps them, and that’s definitely true for social media platforms because of the network effect (which is why I stay off of the corporate ones), but it’s less true of other products. In fact if i use an ad-supported product but block the ads I’m likely costing them more than I am a benefit.
It’s also a spectrum rather than black and white: every medium or larger tech company, especially if american due to the deregulated and in many cases openly corrupt capitalism, is going to do evil things for profit and be both run and owned by evil people/corporations. But their level of danger to global society varies. Musk is extremely dangerous because of his active campaign to bring fascism and nationalism to power in Europe, which is why x.com is blocked in my house at a DNS level. Other billionaires are dangerous too but they’re not all equal.
