If Gen Z manages to foster a vegan culture that doesn’t rely on shaming but is rather welcoming, I think it might convert a whole lot more people, and many of us wouldn’t scoff at the idea. One of my biggest hurdles as a former vegetarian was dealing with judgement and I always felt that the community didn’t do itself any favors.
My biggest hurdle as a vegan is the amount of bullshit I get from meat eaters for simply being vegan. When comparing it to the amount of bullshit coming from vegans it’s clear that meat eaters have always been worse offenders. You pointing towards vegans is purely a way to justify your selfish eating habits by protecting your ego and redirecting the blame, even unprovoked. Out of nowhere you had to make it personal towards vegans while not a single vegan here was making it personal towards a meat eater.
Your comment is part of what I’m talking about. You didn’t hesitate to blame & shame, to take it personally, and get explosive. Do I really want to associate with people like that?
And your comment is exactly what I am talking about. You make it personal about vegans, but can’t handle when it’s done back at you. That makes you a hypocrite. You, without any provocation, made a personal remark about vegans. And then get defensive when it’s done back at you without even acknowledging you did it first.
No one can force you to experience shame you don’t already feel, and blaming vegans for your own feelings isn’t going to get you anyplace. That is not vegans doing that to you, that is YOU doing that to you.
YOU’RE GOING TO FEEL SHAME. You are going to feel shame every time you try to emotionally process what you are doing, until you do something about it. That is just the nature of self improvement. Suck it up.
If Gen Z manages to foster a vegan culture that doesn’t rely on shaming but is rather welcoming, I think it might convert a whole lot more people, and many of us wouldn’t scoff at the idea. One of my biggest hurdles as a former vegetarian was dealing with judgement and I always felt that the community didn’t do itself any favors.
I find most vegans welcoming, the problem is the crazies make so much noise in my opinion. Like in many other fields.
I’m rather asocial, so I can be so wrong.
My biggest hurdle as a vegan is the amount of bullshit I get from meat eaters for simply being vegan. When comparing it to the amount of bullshit coming from vegans it’s clear that meat eaters have always been worse offenders. You pointing towards vegans is purely a way to justify your selfish eating habits by protecting your ego and redirecting the blame, even unprovoked. Out of nowhere you had to make it personal towards vegans while not a single vegan here was making it personal towards a meat eater.
Your comment is part of what I’m talking about. You didn’t hesitate to blame & shame, to take it personally, and get explosive. Do I really want to associate with people like that?
And your comment is exactly what I am talking about. You make it personal about vegans, but can’t handle when it’s done back at you. That makes you a hypocrite. You, without any provocation, made a personal remark about vegans. And then get defensive when it’s done back at you without even acknowledging you did it first.
But I’m not taking it personally. Lol It sounds like you’re just saying that to get me on equal footing and have an excuse to call me a hypocrite.
No one can force you to experience shame you don’t already feel, and blaming vegans for your own feelings isn’t going to get you anyplace. That is not vegans doing that to you, that is YOU doing that to you.
YOU’RE GOING TO FEEL SHAME. You are going to feel shame every time you try to emotionally process what you are doing, until you do something about it. That is just the nature of self improvement. Suck it up.
I think you’re jumping to conclusions in typical Lemmy fashion when it comes to touchy subjects.