I do remember some decent moments in early TNG, but there’s a lot of racism and prejudicial bullshit. Also a lot of cheesiness. In general, I skip way more episodes of TNG when rewatching than I do with DS9 or Voyager, but I still think it’s all essential to watch at least once if you’re invested in the lore of the Star Trek universe. I’d still take all the bullshit and cheesiness a thousand times over in place of the current generation of Trek shows.
I don’t hate all the new shows. They have merit, but they basically cheated. They can omit, change, discard, ignore, or otherwise leave out any and all lore because of the universe reset that happened with the new trek. It gave them a clean slate so that they would have the creative freedom to do whatever they wanted.
Weighing it against other sci-fi shows in a similar vein, the new series of shows/movies holds up for the most part, against Star wars, and shows like the Orville. But as star trek, I think they did a disservice to the fans by rebooting it in the way that they did. All the existing universe and lore built by TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and all the movies up to that point, is all basically voided. Where you would know that, if they introduce worf, for example, even as a young warrior, you would know what he will become if the canon wasn’t voided. Now? They can use the characters and come up with any reason for them to make a different choice, dramatically changing the outcomes.
But, if you judge it as a separate thing, loosely based on trek, it’s not bad.
I’m giving them a chance. I’m the only one in my friend group who will actually watch them. I made it through Picard. Like many others I enjoyed season 3, but barely made it through the rest. I somehow made it through Discovery. It had it’s moments, but so much of it was just terrible. I could barely get through it. It was a long and slow process. Now I’m on Strange New Worlds. I think I’m halfway through what’s out now. I’m enjoying it more than the other 2, but it’s still missing a lot of what I love about the older Star Trek shows. Still I’m the kind of person who wants to give things a chance even if the general consensus is that it’s terrible.
Early TNG was a bit rough. They had the right people, but some of the plot lines were strange an in some cases quite prejudiced.
Around season 3 they got their stride going.
Not every episode of season 1 is good. They were trying stuff and seeing what resonated with a new generation of trek fans.
I’m not saying anyone should skip it, but there are episodes that make me question why they even thought it was a good idea to do that.
I do remember some decent moments in early TNG, but there’s a lot of racism and prejudicial bullshit. Also a lot of cheesiness. In general, I skip way more episodes of TNG when rewatching than I do with DS9 or Voyager, but I still think it’s all essential to watch at least once if you’re invested in the lore of the Star Trek universe. I’d still take all the bullshit and cheesiness a thousand times over in place of the current generation of Trek shows.
I don’t hate all the new shows. They have merit, but they basically cheated. They can omit, change, discard, ignore, or otherwise leave out any and all lore because of the universe reset that happened with the new trek. It gave them a clean slate so that they would have the creative freedom to do whatever they wanted.
Weighing it against other sci-fi shows in a similar vein, the new series of shows/movies holds up for the most part, against Star wars, and shows like the Orville. But as star trek, I think they did a disservice to the fans by rebooting it in the way that they did. All the existing universe and lore built by TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and all the movies up to that point, is all basically voided. Where you would know that, if they introduce worf, for example, even as a young warrior, you would know what he will become if the canon wasn’t voided. Now? They can use the characters and come up with any reason for them to make a different choice, dramatically changing the outcomes.
But, if you judge it as a separate thing, loosely based on trek, it’s not bad.
Also, I couldn’t even imagine how they’d introduce Worf with the new version of Klingons. All I know is everyone would hate it immediately.
I’m giving them a chance. I’m the only one in my friend group who will actually watch them. I made it through Picard. Like many others I enjoyed season 3, but barely made it through the rest. I somehow made it through Discovery. It had it’s moments, but so much of it was just terrible. I could barely get through it. It was a long and slow process. Now I’m on Strange New Worlds. I think I’m halfway through what’s out now. I’m enjoying it more than the other 2, but it’s still missing a lot of what I love about the older Star Trek shows. Still I’m the kind of person who wants to give things a chance even if the general consensus is that it’s terrible.