Context: PugJesus often spams low quality posts across the dozen or so communities they mod, apparently downvoting low effort spam on my frontpage is trolling. The only other action in the modlog is a different ban for 74 years for “Mass downvoting innocuous content,” so it definitely seems they are just banning people that dislike their spam. Glad we’re not missing out on the reddit mod experience here.

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    2 days ago

    I think if you’re downvoting posts just because you feel the person sharing them is spamming, especially in a community you don’t contribute to, you should just block the person instead of putting a metaphorical thumb on the scale in community you don’t care about.

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          Well I find that hard to believe, but that’s not quite what I asked. I said are you familiar with them. More specifically how they post. Because you must know they post like 150 posts a day. Spamming simultaniously all across multiple communities usually very low effort brain rot quality posts. It is extremely easy to end up down voting a lot of their posts. In fact if you have any Integrity you probably are going to end up down voting a lot of their stuff.

          Now I certainly agree that blocking them is the easier, and far more intelligent, option. However if you don’t pay attention to who’s posting things it’s very easy not to realize you’re down voting the same person over and over. And I don’t think most people do. Unless they have that user tagged or something.

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            I’ve found some of their history posts pretty enjoyable. Sorry I don’t live up to your idea of integrity, I guess? I just don’t see the appeal of browsing all if you don’t want to see dumb meme content here and there. Not even sure I see how this is especially an instance of power tripping as it sounds like pug did OP a favor considering they didn’t like any of the content on the community in question. I checked the grimdank mod log and there’s a grand total of two bans.

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      so, it is forbidden? i’m not thinking of a particular user btw, although the one mentioned by op is quite power trippy, yea.

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        I don’t see any specific rules for the grimdank community, but piefed.social does have this instance rule:

        2. Spam and Malicious Behavior

        • No spamming, flooding, or advertising without permission.
        • No scams, phishing attempts, or distribution of malware.
        • No brigading, vote manipulation, or coordinated harassment.

        I could see a case for arguing it’s vote manipulation, although I feel that’s kind of a reach. I just find it weird to get annoyed that someone is posting too much in a shitpost meme sub. Browsing the All feed and getting annoyed with that feels akin to going to a club and being annoyed there’s loud music. Just block the poster bothering you and move on.

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        It’s not forbidden, but also don’t act surprised when whoever you’re downvoting excludes you from their community, which shouldn’t be a big loss to begin with.

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            Not really. Hypothetical: If someone who doesn’t like metal music enters [email protected] and downvotes every post there - and commits themselves to doing it to every new post, this hurts their visibility across the Fediverse. Would you not say its reasonable, in this specific hypothetical, for the community owner to ban a user who does that?

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              that’s true but that’s a very specific hypothetical i’m not sure happens that much.

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                Well I’ll give you my own experience: When I was growing [email protected] before lemm.ee shut down, the community collected about 5 frequent downvoters. None of these accounts ever upvoted. They never participated by posting or commenting. In a few cases, two of the accounts had no posting history on the fediverse at all. They existed purely to downvote. Whether because they didn’t like television as a topic, or hated news articles being posted - I don’t know. But they would, between them, always downvote posts and sometimes do so early - deprecating their visibility.

                Since moving to piefed after lemm.ee shut down, I’ve only had to do it again twice.

                I think it’s reasonable for a community moderator to decide that these accounts are unwelcome and ban them.

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                  you are right, i don’t think that’s op’s case though. do you think these accounts you describe might be just bots instead?

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                    Some of them did interact on the fediverse (although not on television). The ones with no posting/comment activity? No idea.

                    The point is that people really do behave like this.