Context: PugJesus often spams low quality posts across the dozen or so communities they mod, apparently downvoting low effort spam on my frontpage is trolling. The only other action in the modlog is a different ban for 74 years for “Mass downvoting innocuous content,” so it definitely seems they are just banning people that dislike their spam. Glad we’re not missing out on the reddit mod experience here.

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    Intent does matter intent doesn’t matter you really are confusing me dude I can’t imagine this is easy for you, either.

    It would be wrong to think only a developer could fix something especially when it isn’t broken technically.

    Your actions?

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      Intent does matter intent doesn’t matter you really are confusing me dude I can’t imagine this is easy for you, either.

      In terms of mass downvoting, it doesn’t. From my perspective, they would just be a user who downvotes every post and who has no interest in the topic of the community. My instinct is that they likely just don’t like the community.

      It would be wrong to think only a developer could fix something especially when it isn’t broken technically.

      You’re right, the downvote-upvote system is working as intended - and community moderators respond as they choose to towards it. I think it’s working much closer to “as intended” compared to Reddit actually.

      Your actions?

      They’re not excuses, they’re perfectly valid and justifiable reasons.

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        So now it is EVERY post and you know how they feel about a community? Has anyone you banned in the past met these latest requirements?

        It shifts blame it is an excuse that is extremely basic. You should have absolutely no authority you are stupid as fuck

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          So now it is EVERY post and you know how they feel about a community? Has anyone you banned in the past met these latest requirements?

          Most posts. And I obviously don’t know, but I’m thinking if someone comes into a community and downvotes everything that they probably just don’t like it. It’s not that deep.

          It shifts blame it is an excuse that is extremely basic. You should have absolutely no authority you are stupid as fuck

          Shifts blame to what? Who is blaming anyone?

          So you’re getting personal now?

          I absolutely do literally have ‘authority’ over the community I run, and it’s considered entirely acceptable by most instance owners for community owners/mods to ban people for mass downvoting without post/comment contribution.

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            They’re not excuses, they’re perfectly valid and justifiable reasons.

            Your own words… You described an excuse. It’s kinda interesting to watch you deny things you said 2 posts ago like when you said multiple times you never called anyone a troll but it’s like right there for all to read…

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              Is every explanation according to you an excuse?

              It’s kinda interesting to watch you deny things you said 2 posts ago like when you said multiple times you never called anyone a troll but it’s like right there for all to read…

              Ah yes, my original post (I was quoting myself as I’ve had these discussions before) was “downvote trolls”. I missed that. Fine. Just “downvoters” then. People who downvote every post in a community. I’m thinking if someone does that, they simply don’t like the community and it’s completely reasonable to ban them for it if you find it damaging to the posts that they downvote.

              I don’t believe there’s ever a particularly good reason for someone to mass-downvote every post on a community - and in doing so they risk getting banned from the community. This is public knowledge on the Fediverse at this point.

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                When explaining your actions and you justify it by blaming something else… Wait because you didn’t intend for it to be an excuse you think it isn’t an excuse?

                Ah yes, you miss a lot. Yes yes I know you have painted pictures in your head of people based on meta data you dislike, that is what I am saying is part of the problem.

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                  When explaining your actions and you justify it by blaming something else… Wait because you didn’t intend for it to be an excuse you think it isn’t an excuse?

                  Blaming what? It just is. Some people spend their time on the fediverse downvoting entire communities. As a result of that they risk getting banned from those communities. As I said, it’s not that deep.

                  Ah yes, you miss a lot. Yes yes I know you have painted pictures in your head of people based on meta data you dislike, that is what I am saying is part of the problem.

                  I don’t think about these users full stop. I just see that an account is mass-downvoting all content in a community I moderate and ban. When it happens. It’s pretty rare.

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                    I don’t think about these users full stop. I just see that an account is mass-downvoting all content in a community I moderate and ban. When it happens. It’s pretty rare.

                    Yes but the people you banned didn’t mass downvote all content in the community you run. We covered this already, you need to make leaps of judgement in order to justify this to yourself because you know what you are doing is wrong. No it isn’t deep.