This is funny and all, but eerily possible. The thing that angers me is that it is sort of normal that “the boss” can behave like an angry 6 year old without being told off, it happens overseas too but I have the impression it’s a very American thing.
This happens a lot, i’m sure. I’m 40 now, but people still think i’m in my 20es and have trouble taking me seriously at work, even if i have over 20 years of experience in my field. Now imagine being me in my 20es.
It happens quite frequently that people are looking for my co-worker and i tell them where to find him, or they just ask me. And then go: “no it’s fine, i ask him”. And i tell them that’s fine, but he’ll just ask me.
And later they come back and ask me together. It happenS ALL THE TIME.
I had this sort of thing happen all the time at my last job. Eventually everyone just accepted that I was the one to ask. Then it backfired and they started assuming that i was the one to ask about everything. Then it double backfired and they started inviting me to meetings as a SME (subject matter expert)… about basically everything whether I knew much about them or not.
There’s a couple of warning flags in that story - what’s with the “I spend my time making my boss’s life hell”? That doesn’t sound conducive to building a trusting relationship…
Then there’s how you work through a problem with someone, especially higher management. I’ve learned to not over share the details, because there’s this invisible force that commands them to give an opinion and butt in.
Just offer calm assurance that you know what it is going on and that you can fix it, and give them an estimate of how long it will take, but double it first. This will give you leeway in case of unexpected issues, and make you look good if you deliver faster.
One thing they’re good at though is getting you resources. If you need someone else to move, or something to get it fixed, be clear about that and they’ll start making phone calls and make it happen in no time.
Yes it sounds extremely Indian. India seems to have this work culture thing where if management are not been a pain in the backside they feel like they’re not doing their jobs properly. The contract ends in march (because apparently outsourcing the jobs to India hasn’t resulted in the expected savings, gee, I wonder why) and I cannot wait to no longer have to deal with them.
The work culture is terrible. Racism. Nepotism. Shitty code, because their university taught them to write code, instead of actually teaching them how to learn.
Fortunately this lot haven’t actually been doing coding, but I’ve worked jobs where they turn in their terrible code and it’s just nested if statements and 2000 line files.
This is funny and all, but eerily possible. The thing that angers me is that it is sort of normal that “the boss” can behave like an angry 6 year old without being told off, it happens overseas too but I have the impression it’s a very American thing.
This happens a lot, i’m sure. I’m 40 now, but people still think i’m in my 20es and have trouble taking me seriously at work, even if i have over 20 years of experience in my field. Now imagine being me in my 20es.
It happens quite frequently that people are looking for my co-worker and i tell them where to find him, or they just ask me. And then go: “no it’s fine, i ask him”. And i tell them that’s fine, but he’ll just ask me. And later they come back and ask me together. It happenS ALL THE TIME.
I had this sort of thing happen all the time at my last job. Eventually everyone just accepted that I was the one to ask. Then it backfired and they started assuming that i was the one to ask about everything. Then it double backfired and they started inviting me to meetings as a SME (subject matter expert)… about basically everything whether I knew much about them or not.
True, but…
There’s a couple of warning flags in that story - what’s with the “I spend my time making my boss’s life hell”? That doesn’t sound conducive to building a trusting relationship…
Then there’s how you work through a problem with someone, especially higher management. I’ve learned to not over share the details, because there’s this invisible force that commands them to give an opinion and butt in.
Just offer calm assurance that you know what it is going on and that you can fix it, and give them an estimate of how long it will take, but double it first. This will give you leeway in case of unexpected issues, and make you look good if you deliver faster.
One thing they’re good at though is getting you resources. If you need someone else to move, or something to get it fixed, be clear about that and they’ll start making phone calls and make it happen in no time.
who are you, so wise in the ways of corporate?
That noob thinks doubling the time estimate is enough. He’s like a little kid yet.
My method is that if it’s a 5 minute thing, that’s this week. If not, then next quarter.
Yeah they’re gonna take 75% right off the top.
If they also handle security that can be a (necessary) pain in the ass
It’s also a very Indian thing. And a very nepotism thing.
Yes it sounds extremely Indian. India seems to have this work culture thing where if management are not been a pain in the backside they feel like they’re not doing their jobs properly. The contract ends in march (because apparently outsourcing the jobs to India hasn’t resulted in the expected savings, gee, I wonder why) and I cannot wait to no longer have to deal with them.
The work culture is terrible. Racism. Nepotism. Shitty code, because their university taught them to write code, instead of actually teaching them how to learn.
Fortunately this lot haven’t actually been doing coding, but I’ve worked jobs where they turn in their terrible code and it’s just nested if statements and 2000 line files.