you keep using this word and you don’t seem to know what it means. Do you sincerely believe there was no meaningful difference between actual fascists and the USSR
defederated anarchist style antifa milišas
what fucking anarchist militias? Are you going to pull a military force directly out of the same ass you pulled the rest of your right wing propaganda? In what way would that be any better or more effective than the Soviet Ground Forces? because it’s more “ideologically pure” or “anti authoritarian”? Are you going to spend months arming and training an irregular militia while fascists are already armed and burning synagogues just to own the evil internet tankies?
You absolutely disregard any ideas other than your own, and parse them as hostile because you do not immediately understand their value.
It reads as profoundly disrespectful and what psychologists call ‘splitting’. I’m very glad you’re not making any decisions that matter, and wish I could offer you a hug.
does putting people who say anything you don’t like in concentration camps, collaborating with nazis, oppressing the proletariat via forcing them into poverty via a monitary system and staving 3.5 million to 10 million people not sound like fascism to you?
putting people who say anything you don’t like in concentration camps,
citations needed, also they have those in whatever country you’re posting from right now
collaborating with nazis
citations absolutely fucking needed, also they do that in whatever country you’re posting from right now
oppressing the proletariat via forcing them into poverty via a monitary system
honestly wtf are you even talking about. this is also something they’re doing in whatever country you’re posting from right now
staving 3.5 million to 10 million people
are we seriously doing double genocide theory shit? you are literally repeating talking points cooked up by Joseph Goebbels right now. you’re more full of fascist propaganda than most people on the street. In your absolutely pants on head brainless, thoughtless quest to own le ebil internet tankies, you’ve sided with and are repeating actual fascist propaganda to do it.
find the nearest mirror and take one good goddamn look at it
Cite literally anything. Provide literally any evidence for a claim. Hell, make a concrete claim. All you’ve done is say “tankie tankie tankie fascist fascist fascist” and you’re pretending like you’ve made a coherent argument. These are the debate tactics of an eight year old
Telling me “I’ve heard of molotov ribbentrop and it lives rent free in my brain without absolutely any understanding of the context in which it was agreed on” without using those words
NATO anarchist liberals don’t care that the USSR spent like a decade trying to drum up a military alliance with Western powers to contain Germany, refused by all. NATO anarchists don’t care about similar agreements agreed upon between Germany and those same powers, prior to Molotov Ribbentrop. “ahhhh the evil soviets COLLABORATED” they literally begged the west to do something and were refused lmao so they signed a non aggression pact and partitioned Poland (which NATO anarchist liberals ignore is basically a flat plain that has, historically, been used as an avenue to attempt to invade Russia like a dozen times). how evil. They then went on to spend tens of millions of lives beating fascism so you’re not speaking German and sieg heiling today, loser
read a fucking book that isn’t harry potter or the conquest of bread
so in ur mind, critiquing the USSR = Defending the west?, “w…well nyooo you cant critique the USSR, seee no one else wanted to play with stalin, so it was totally fine that he was buddy buddy with hitler, you westerner, you criticise the USSR cus u a nato spy” completely ignoring the fact that I hate all states and that I have also criticised western countries
seee no one else wanted to play with stalin, so it was totally fine that he was buddy buddy with hitler,
Stalin was not buddy buddy with Hitler. He was one of, if not his fiercest opponent. If you have information contrary to this, make a concrete claim and cite it
completely ignoring the fact that I hate all states and that I have also criticised western countries
You were literally parroting straight up nazi propaganda in this very thread earlier today. You are not “criticizing” the west by repeating fascist propaganda to slander your comically skewed view of socialist countries as worse than anything else, you’re just carrying water for Joseph Goebbels.
Again. Drop the pop history truisms and make a concrete claim about what you actually believe. You’re not even “debating” anyone here without doing that, you’re throwing a child’s tantrum
You’re not critiquing the west when you call the USSR nazi collaborators and all you can point to is a non aggression pact signed AFTER all attempts to make agreements with the other allies to contain Germany failed
This is when I ask if you’re a fucking moron but like for fucking real, are you a fucking moron? Are you doing the reddit Shitlib tactic of baiting anger so you can cry “Mods! MODS!”? It really seems like one of the two
One country goes door to door begging for help fighting the Nazis, is refused on every count, and you just shrug your fucking shoulders and go “OH THEY’RE ALL JUST THE SAME. ACTUALLY, THE USSR IS WORSE, THEY’RE COLLABORATORS!”? Like i don’t know what else to say other than that that’s absolutely brainless, moron shit. Unless you’re ACTIVELY being a Nazi, you have to be really fucking dumb to look at this and come to the conclusion that you have. Your conclusion, btw, is literally Nazi propaganda.
NATO anarchists also don’t seem to understand the position the USSR was in. The 1930s aren’t that far from 1) WWI, which absolutely wrecked Russia’s shit, and 2) the civil war and war with the Whites (which were supported by… oh, look at that, every western power! There’s your fucking fascist collaboration, nerd) and both were absolutely devastating both to the Soviet population as well as industry. Like, I can’t stress how much of a moron you are for looking at Molotov Ribbentropp in the context of every other great powers’ refusal to contain the Nazis and 1) see that as “collaboration” and 2) fail to realize how absolutely fucking necessary it was for the USSR to win the war. You realize they only BARELY won, right? Even with all the time it bought them to reindustrialize? Like holy fucking shit, if you had a brain in your head you’d realize the USSR signing the molotov ribbentrop agreement is probably THE reason you’re even here arguing that they’re fascists in the first place instead of sieg heiling your fuhrer in German, you ignorant fuck.
calling the people who sent in tanks to prevent a fascist regime “tankies” in a derogatory fashion while equating them with actual fascists is literally you defending a fascist regime. That is literally the thing that you are doing when you make dumbfuck equivocations like that.
I mean, not defending fascist regimes would be a great start (but you failed that one already)
Answer the question mother fucker. There’s fascists rampaging through the streets armed and looking to kill. What do you do about this?
I think enough of us are in a position where answering that would be unwise.
Not rely on the fascists in power to deal with their own and defederated anarchist style antifa milišas
you keep using this word and you don’t seem to know what it means. Do you sincerely believe there was no meaningful difference between actual fascists and the USSR
what fucking anarchist militias? Are you going to pull a military force directly out of the same ass you pulled the rest of your right wing propaganda? In what way would that be any better or more effective than the Soviet Ground Forces? because it’s more “ideologically pure” or “anti authoritarian”? Are you going to spend months arming and training an irregular militia while fascists are already armed and burning synagogues just to own the evil internet tankies?
Hey, um, just out of interest… Where do I get some of those soviet ground forces? Who do I talk to about that?
You absolutely disregard any ideas other than your own, and parse them as hostile because you do not immediately understand their value.
It reads as profoundly disrespectful and what psychologists call ‘splitting’. I’m very glad you’re not making any decisions that matter, and wish I could offer you a hug.
Shut up, nerd.
Shit. Got me. Okay.
does putting people who say anything you don’t like in concentration camps, collaborating with nazis, oppressing the proletariat via forcing them into poverty via a monitary system and staving 3.5 million to 10 million people not sound like fascism to you?
citations needed, also they have those in whatever country you’re posting from right now
citations absolutely fucking needed, also they do that in whatever country you’re posting from right now
honestly wtf are you even talking about. this is also something they’re doing in whatever country you’re posting from right now
are we seriously doing double genocide theory shit? you are literally repeating talking points cooked up by Joseph Goebbels right now. you’re more full of fascist propaganda than most people on the street. In your absolutely pants on head brainless, thoughtless quest to own le ebil internet tankies, you’ve sided with and are repeating actual fascist propaganda to do it.
find the nearest mirror and take one good goddamn look at it
the mental gymnastics is crazy
Cite literally anything. Provide literally any evidence for a claim. Hell, make a concrete claim. All you’ve done is say “tankie tankie tankie fascist fascist fascist” and you’re pretending like you’ve made a coherent argument. These are the debate tactics of an eight year old
Dunked.
Telling me “I’ve heard of molotov ribbentrop and it lives rent free in my brain without absolutely any understanding of the context in which it was agreed on” without using those words
NATO anarchist liberals don’t care that the USSR spent like a decade trying to drum up a military alliance with Western powers to contain Germany, refused by all. NATO anarchists don’t care about similar agreements agreed upon between Germany and those same powers, prior to Molotov Ribbentrop. “ahhhh the evil soviets COLLABORATED” they literally begged the west to do something and were refused lmao so they signed a non aggression pact and partitioned Poland (which NATO anarchist liberals ignore is basically a flat plain that has, historically, been used as an avenue to attempt to invade Russia like a dozen times). how evil. They then went on to spend tens of millions of lives beating fascism so you’re not speaking German and sieg heiling today, loser
read a fucking book that isn’t harry potter or the conquest of bread
“debate me, bro”
so in ur mind, critiquing the USSR = Defending the west?, “w…well nyooo you cant critique the USSR, seee no one else wanted to play with stalin, so it was totally fine that he was buddy buddy with hitler, you westerner, you criticise the USSR cus u a nato spy” completely ignoring the fact that I hate all states and that I have also criticised western countries
Stalin was not buddy buddy with Hitler. He was one of, if not his fiercest opponent. If you have information contrary to this, make a concrete claim and cite it
You were literally parroting straight up nazi propaganda in this very thread earlier today. You are not “criticizing” the west by repeating fascist propaganda to slander your comically skewed view of socialist countries as worse than anything else, you’re just carrying water for Joseph Goebbels.
Again. Drop the pop history truisms and make a concrete claim about what you actually believe. You’re not even “debating” anyone here without doing that, you’re throwing a child’s tantrum
ah yes, cus acknowledging any fault of the USSR (in this case Holodomor) makes you a nazi, very logical thinking
Oh sorry i called you an idiot and a moron and a dumbfuck it’s clear you’re just literally a child
You’re not critiquing the west when you call the USSR nazi collaborators and all you can point to is a non aggression pact signed AFTER all attempts to make agreements with the other allies to contain Germany failed
This is when I ask if you’re a fucking moron but like for fucking real, are you a fucking moron? Are you doing the reddit Shitlib tactic of baiting anger so you can cry “Mods! MODS!”? It really seems like one of the two
One country goes door to door begging for help fighting the Nazis, is refused on every count, and you just shrug your fucking shoulders and go “OH THEY’RE ALL JUST THE SAME. ACTUALLY, THE USSR IS WORSE, THEY’RE COLLABORATORS!”? Like i don’t know what else to say other than that that’s absolutely brainless, moron shit. Unless you’re ACTIVELY being a Nazi, you have to be really fucking dumb to look at this and come to the conclusion that you have. Your conclusion, btw, is literally Nazi propaganda.
NATO anarchists also don’t seem to understand the position the USSR was in. The 1930s aren’t that far from 1) WWI, which absolutely wrecked Russia’s shit, and 2) the civil war and war with the Whites (which were supported by… oh, look at that, every western power! There’s your fucking fascist collaboration, nerd) and both were absolutely devastating both to the Soviet population as well as industry. Like, I can’t stress how much of a moron you are for looking at Molotov Ribbentropp in the context of every other great powers’ refusal to contain the Nazis and 1) see that as “collaboration” and 2) fail to realize how absolutely fucking necessary it was for the USSR to win the war. You realize they only BARELY won, right? Even with all the time it bought them to reindustrialize? Like holy fucking shit, if you had a brain in your head you’d realize the USSR signing the molotov ribbentrop agreement is probably THE reason you’re even here arguing that they’re fascists in the first place instead of sieg heiling your fuhrer in German, you ignorant fuck.
calling the people who sent in tanks to prevent a fascist regime “tankies” in a derogatory fashion while equating them with actual fascists is literally you defending a fascist regime. That is literally the thing that you are doing when you make dumbfuck equivocations like that.