so in ur mind, critiquing the USSR = Defending the west?, “w…well nyooo you cant critique the USSR, seee no one else wanted to play with stalin, so it was totally fine that he was buddy buddy with hitler, you westerner, you criticise the USSR cus u a nato spy” completely ignoring the fact that I hate all states and that I have also criticised western countries
seee no one else wanted to play with stalin, so it was totally fine that he was buddy buddy with hitler,
Stalin was not buddy buddy with Hitler. He was one of, if not his fiercest opponent. If you have information contrary to this, make a concrete claim and cite it
completely ignoring the fact that I hate all states and that I have also criticised western countries
You were literally parroting straight up nazi propaganda in this very thread earlier today. You are not “criticizing” the west by repeating fascist propaganda to slander your comically skewed view of socialist countries as worse than anything else, you’re just carrying water for Joseph Goebbels.
Again. Drop the pop history truisms and make a concrete claim about what you actually believe. You’re not even “debating” anyone here without doing that, you’re throwing a child’s tantrum
Literally yes. The idea that the Holodomor was a famine directly caused by the USSR is a talking point literally cooked up in the propaganda departments of Nazi Germany and here you are repeating those same lies 80 odd years later
Make your case: How was the Holodomor a famine caused by Stalin’s mustache twirling machinations and not a famine that struck all parts of the USSR, including Russia and Kazakhstan?
And while you’re at it, make your case for Stalin being buddy buddy with Hitler. I’d love to see your knee jerk pop history McCarthyite response that you cooked up in 2 seconds
I feel like someone who decides to argue their point by saying that the two big bad guys from their 9th grade world history class were “buddy buddy” isn’t really looking to make a serious case for anything.
Of course, the point I’m trying to get at is their whole ideology is racist, unserious, and deeply soaked with propaganda. I felt like I did a good enough job sending that home
People tell you you’re parroting nazi propaganda and you refuse to engage, good job you fucking moron, if you actually thought about it you might realize what a fucking idiot you are
“The holodomor” was literally the product of nazis trying to equivocate with the holocaust, you are doing literal nazi propaganda when you push that bullshit. Even western liberals have been forced to agree that there was no intentional attempt to starve ukraine, you dumb piece of shit
You’re not critiquing the west when you call the USSR nazi collaborators and all you can point to is a non aggression pact signed AFTER all attempts to make agreements with the other allies to contain Germany failed
This is when I ask if you’re a fucking moron but like for fucking real, are you a fucking moron? Are you doing the reddit Shitlib tactic of baiting anger so you can cry “Mods! MODS!”? It really seems like one of the two
One country goes door to door begging for help fighting the Nazis, is refused on every count, and you just shrug your fucking shoulders and go “OH THEY’RE ALL JUST THE SAME. ACTUALLY, THE USSR IS WORSE, THEY’RE COLLABORATORS!”? Like i don’t know what else to say other than that that’s absolutely brainless, moron shit. Unless you’re ACTIVELY being a Nazi, you have to be really fucking dumb to look at this and come to the conclusion that you have. Your conclusion, btw, is literally Nazi propaganda.
NATO anarchists also don’t seem to understand the position the USSR was in. The 1930s aren’t that far from 1) WWI, which absolutely wrecked Russia’s shit, and 2) the civil war and war with the Whites (which were supported by… oh, look at that, every western power! There’s your fucking fascist collaboration, nerd) and both were absolutely devastating both to the Soviet population as well as industry. Like, I can’t stress how much of a moron you are for looking at Molotov Ribbentropp in the context of every other great powers’ refusal to contain the Nazis and 1) see that as “collaboration” and 2) fail to realize how absolutely fucking necessary it was for the USSR to win the war. You realize they only BARELY won, right? Even with all the time it bought them to reindustrialize? Like holy fucking shit, if you had a brain in your head you’d realize the USSR signing the molotov ribbentrop agreement is probably THE reason you’re even here arguing that they’re fascists in the first place instead of sieg heiling your fuhrer in German, you ignorant fuck.
so in ur mind, critiquing the USSR = Defending the west?, “w…well nyooo you cant critique the USSR, seee no one else wanted to play with stalin, so it was totally fine that he was buddy buddy with hitler, you westerner, you criticise the USSR cus u a nato spy” completely ignoring the fact that I hate all states and that I have also criticised western countries
Stalin was not buddy buddy with Hitler. He was one of, if not his fiercest opponent. If you have information contrary to this, make a concrete claim and cite it
You were literally parroting straight up nazi propaganda in this very thread earlier today. You are not “criticizing” the west by repeating fascist propaganda to slander your comically skewed view of socialist countries as worse than anything else, you’re just carrying water for Joseph Goebbels.
Again. Drop the pop history truisms and make a concrete claim about what you actually believe. You’re not even “debating” anyone here without doing that, you’re throwing a child’s tantrum
ah yes, cus acknowledging any fault of the USSR (in this case Holodomor) makes you a nazi, very logical thinking
Literally yes. The idea that the Holodomor was a famine directly caused by the USSR is a talking point literally cooked up in the propaganda departments of Nazi Germany and here you are repeating those same lies 80 odd years later
Make your case: How was the Holodomor a famine caused by Stalin’s mustache twirling machinations and not a famine that struck all parts of the USSR, including Russia and Kazakhstan?
And while you’re at it, make your case for Stalin being buddy buddy with Hitler. I’d love to see your knee jerk pop history McCarthyite response that you cooked up in 2 seconds
I feel like someone who decides to argue their point by saying that the two big bad guys from their 9th grade world history class were “buddy buddy” isn’t really looking to make a serious case for anything.
Of course, the point I’m trying to get at is their whole ideology is racist, unserious, and deeply soaked with propaganda. I felt like I did a good enough job sending that home
“Do your kids know you beat your wife?”
People tell you you’re parroting nazi propaganda and you refuse to engage, good job you fucking moron, if you actually thought about it you might realize what a fucking idiot you are
“The holodomor” was literally the product of nazis trying to equivocate with the holocaust, you are doing literal nazi propaganda when you push that bullshit. Even western liberals have been forced to agree that there was no intentional attempt to starve ukraine, you dumb piece of shit
https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory
Oh sorry i called you an idiot and a moron and a dumbfuck it’s clear you’re just literally a child
You’re not critiquing the west when you call the USSR nazi collaborators and all you can point to is a non aggression pact signed AFTER all attempts to make agreements with the other allies to contain Germany failed
This is when I ask if you’re a fucking moron but like for fucking real, are you a fucking moron? Are you doing the reddit Shitlib tactic of baiting anger so you can cry “Mods! MODS!”? It really seems like one of the two
One country goes door to door begging for help fighting the Nazis, is refused on every count, and you just shrug your fucking shoulders and go “OH THEY’RE ALL JUST THE SAME. ACTUALLY, THE USSR IS WORSE, THEY’RE COLLABORATORS!”? Like i don’t know what else to say other than that that’s absolutely brainless, moron shit. Unless you’re ACTIVELY being a Nazi, you have to be really fucking dumb to look at this and come to the conclusion that you have. Your conclusion, btw, is literally Nazi propaganda.
NATO anarchists also don’t seem to understand the position the USSR was in. The 1930s aren’t that far from 1) WWI, which absolutely wrecked Russia’s shit, and 2) the civil war and war with the Whites (which were supported by… oh, look at that, every western power! There’s your fucking fascist collaboration, nerd) and both were absolutely devastating both to the Soviet population as well as industry. Like, I can’t stress how much of a moron you are for looking at Molotov Ribbentropp in the context of every other great powers’ refusal to contain the Nazis and 1) see that as “collaboration” and 2) fail to realize how absolutely fucking necessary it was for the USSR to win the war. You realize they only BARELY won, right? Even with all the time it bought them to reindustrialize? Like holy fucking shit, if you had a brain in your head you’d realize the USSR signing the molotov ribbentrop agreement is probably THE reason you’re even here arguing that they’re fascists in the first place instead of sieg heiling your fuhrer in German, you ignorant fuck.