1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards

https://lemmy.ml/u/davel

2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?

Community Ban

3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).

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4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).

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(I have not posted there)

Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I’m not sure how I’ve broken rule 4

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Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don’t engage in.

Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to ‘fuck off’.

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Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.

Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML’er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.

This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.

    • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
      1·
      3 小时前

      It’s been going on for a while. Some of them legit (if you’re on a known homophobic or fascist comm then a Queer one may do it to orotect its userbase) some of them agenda peddling (apparently i’ve been banned from a comm i never even knew exist and labelled “ableist” for posting on fuckAI)

      Ahhh the rich tapestry of humanity

    • Treczoks@lemmy.world
      21·
      12 小时前

      I got banned somewhere because there still is an account with my name in an .ml instance (which comes from my first looks into this and shopped around for a suitable place, but with .ml being no good, wasn’t used for nearly two years).

      Some “admins” need their heads examined, and their privileges get taken away…

  • ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    16·
    1 天前

    Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately

    the lack of effective blocking is what really kills Lemmy….
    it’s like it was custom made for harassment and brigading.

    • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
      41·
      15 小时前

      If I block someone - I never see their content, posts, or messages to me again.

      What aspect is ineffective?

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
        1·
        3 小时前

        most other fediverse softwares have blocks run two ways to reduce risk of harm via stalking, brigading, and dogpiling. there’s a difference between muting someone and blocking them on things like mastodon. on lemmy blocks are equivalent to mutes on mastodon

      • ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        5·
        13 小时前

        Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately

        this someone can still follow you and downvote everything you post, and comment on everything you post, and all you’ve done is make it so you can’t tell.

        • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
          11·
          13 小时前

          I mean… I guess that’s not ideal? On the other hand, they keep wasting their time, and I get on with my life. So I’m OK with it this way.

            • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
              11·
              9 小时前

              Well now I’m not sure what you’re after. If it turns into brigading that’s a separate issue, and blocking one or two users from seeing your post won’t fix that, right?

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    4823·
    1 天前

    YDI.

    You’ve equated communists to Nazis and said “tankie fucks deserve to get their heads bashed in.” Extremely aggressive 100% of the time whenever you encounter a Marxist of any sort. With that context, it isn’t unreasonable to ban you when it would already be a clear misfit for you to participate in a Marxist community, be it via voting or otherwise. It wasn’t an instance ban, you’re still free to comment on the socialist comm, anarchist comm, etc as far as I can tell, just not on the communist comm.

    As for the bit on antisemitism, the comment was removed and all you said was “fuck off,” so myself and presumably others made rash assumptions. This isn’t ill-founded though, you had posted Nazi apologia for Nazi collaborators released from prison that went on to lynch Jewish people and communists on the very same thread simply because they opposed the soviets. This is well and truly beyond the standard left-punching the post was for. I feel that this context is necessary because your post directly calls my reputation into question in the post body.

    • ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      202·
      1 天前

      saying that you’re wrong and your grokepedia sources are bullshit is not nazi apologia.
      people can disagree with the factual content of what you’re saying without being a nazi.
      stupid tankie trolls.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        22 小时前

        It implies they could go outside, but they would rather be in the bubble in their room than actually go outside and be productive to their causes.

        Not like any of them actually could fight for something they believe in. They read theory but don’t apply it.

  • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    378·
    1 天前

    YDI - Why do you care if you’re banned in a comm you never post in? The only reason to care is because you want to start drama.

  • Bob_Odenkirk [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    357·
    1 天前

    You’re an anti-communist and you got banned from a communist instance. Aren’t you happy you’re away from the tankies now? Proud you’ve proven their authoritarian nature?

  • RobotToaster@mander.xyz
    58·
    2 天前

    Getting banned from communities you don’t even post on, Lemmy really is a full featured Reddit replacement.

  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
    2·
    20 小时前

    I get that some communities want to curate their content and contributors, but pre-emptive bans and such aren’t going to be an effective method. It’s usually net counter-productive, as we see playing out here.

    Most people won’t understand, care, or even notice. The few that do tend to take it as a provocation than a lesson, anyway.

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
    474·
    1 天前

    PTB, it was probably because you keep triggering them in /c/leftymemes. Also lol at the hexbears in here calling YDI because their feelings are constantly being hurt.

    EDIT: Omegalul at all the salt below.

    • 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      205·
      1 天前

      There is no shame in having hurt feelings.

      I gladly admit my feeling were hurt last year while me and my wife were receiving messages from her friend in the middle east, saying that one had no more parents, that one was now a window, that friends were dying.

      And at the same time, I was reading the very same assholes whining 24/7 about tankies explaining everybody that the genocide was both unavoidable and a fatality anyway.

      Funnily, the main mod of these anti-tankies is the guy that spread genocidal fake news during the mass killings.

      Yes, that hurt my feelings.

    • Ricky Rigatoni@retrolemmy.com
      74·
      22 小时前

      The downside to me explicitly choosing an instance that defeds hex and grad is that I don’t get to see their impotent rage.

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
        94·
        1 天前

        Go and look how many hexbear threads you have about our admins and instance, then come back to me.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          266·
          1 天前

          Anecdotally, I don’t think there’s been nearly as much conflict between Hexbear and dbzer0 as there used to be, and I’ve had good interactions with some of your mods, admins, and users. I’ve also, unfortunately, seen genuine Nazi apologia on dbzer0 protected as “criticizing the soviets,” and this is where the bulk of the remaining conflict stems from. I’ve also seen far more inflammatory posts from dbzer0 users trying to rile up Hexbear users than I have seen the inverse, and I regularly use Hexbear and only occasionally dip into dbzer0 comms.

          Whenever someone like OP starts a crusade against “the tankies,” seemingly inevitably resorting to Nazi apologia, equating communists to Nazis, calling for mass violence against communists, etc, it’s entirely reasonable for the communists to be upset at that. There is endless leniance for these types of people here, in my experience, as long as they hide behind “criticizing the soviets.”

          • Unruffled [they/them]@lemmy.dbzer0.comMEnglish
            8·
            23 小时前

            My thinking is that if certain ppl really hate hexbear or vice versa, then there’s a simple solution, which is to do everyone a favor and simply ban those particular individuals. Then both instances won’t have constant toxic interactions to deal with, which results in a better experience for everyone. So, I actually think this mod action was probably a YDI, simply because it’s probably the best thing for both parties, though calling it a win/win might be more accurate.

            Anecdotally, I don’t think there’s been nearly as much conflict between Hexbear and dbzer0 as there used to be, and I’ve had good interactions with some of your mods, admins, and users.

            Yeah agreed, in general we get along just fine nowadays when we stick to our own lanes. The hexbears’ who get along with us are largely already here, and vice versa. So this “drama” is mostly just white noise from folks who aren’t regular instance users anyway. It’s an impossible task to keep everyone happy.

            I’ve also, unfortunately, seen genuine Nazi apologia on dbzer0 protected as “criticizing the soviets,” and this is where the bulk of the remaining conflict stems from.

            This is unnecessary and unhelpful hyperbole imo. Our users are free to criticise the authoritarian tendencies of the former USSR, as well as of modern day Russia and China, and they are completely free to criticise the authoritarian tendencies of western nation states too. Personally, I think it’s more productive to criticise rising fascism in the west, because that is a bigger and more imminent threat, at least where I live. And that is, in fact, the vast majority of stuff I’ve commented on or posted about. But I can also totally understand how someone with different life experiences might be more focused on Russian authoritarianism, or Soviet history or whatever. It’s just not my jam.

            Whenever someone like OP starts a crusade against “the tankies,” seemingly inevitably resorting to Nazi apologia, equating communists to Nazis, calling for mass violence against communists, etc, it’s entirely reasonable for the communists to be upset at that.

            Yes, I agree with the general sentiment you are expressing here, if not the phrasing. McCarthyism is resurgent at the moment. A lot of establishment dems are seemingly more worried about the “red peril” than they are about Trump. I talked to one the other day who had never even heard of Joe McCarthy and assumed he was a democrat, lmao. And admittedly there are some anarchists who are also rabidly “anti-tankie”, sometimes to a fault. But hey, this is the internet, and people are gonna argue about pointless stuff all day long.

            There is endless leniance for these types of people here, in my experience, as long as they hide behind “criticizing the soviets.”

            True, we are lenient about it because many anarchists think the USSR was a brutal authoritarian state that had few redeeming qualities. And while I agree that generations of anti communist propaganda in the west have undoubtedly contributed to that sentiment, we can’t just wish it away. However, I’d say we have to moderate probably 10x more ppl for defending US/western authoritarianism nowadays than we do ppl for defending russian authoritarianism, so I think it’s a bit of a lopsided criticism anyway. I’d like to think we are a fairly lenient instance in general when it comes to moderation, except for a few niche communities.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
              91·
              22 小时前

              It might just be a PoV thing. OP, for example, is at a pure “attack on sight” mode with me, but someone like yourself isn’t going to get that same treatment. I think an easy fix is to take comments that advocate mass violence against “the tankies” or otherwise more seriously. You don’t have to make this a left-unity space, it’s entirely in y’all’s right to maintain an anarchist space for anarchists, but from a pure interest in better discussion it’s better to give the few extremely vocal and anti-communist users here a bit of a slap on the wrist when it comes to that.

              Again, I’m aware that anarchists usually are fairly negative towards the USSR or other AES examples as they are against all states. It’s when AES is equated to the Nazis that this enters Holocaust trivialization territory, results in users calling for mass violence, etc, and regardless of community rules you’re going to see federated communists come in and push back on that.

              I agree that banning is a solution too, I explained why I think OP being banned from the communism comm is actually relatively benign. It’s the same reason I pretty much never go to anarchist-specific spaces, my interactions with dbzer0 are pretty much the occasional times I check in on Lefty Memes or if I see anything going on in this comm, and neither comm is explicitly against Marxist participation.

              In short, I think 80% of the struggle comes from 20% of the users (or even 95% from 5%, or 99% and 1%). Slapping them on the wrist a bit more when they get carried away would drastically reduce struggle sessions.

        • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
          184·
          1 天前

          I haven’t seen one in quite a while. There were a bunch around when we started federation because of course there was, there were about every community we federated with as communities started mixing and there was friction. Which makes sense, lots of communities had threads about Hexbear too for the same reason. Last thread about db0 as an instance specifically I can recall you were defending a trans hating Nazi sympathizer, not sure why you’d think a mostly trans instance wouldn’t talk about that. It doesn’t make db0 a special target, we talk about all the trans hating Nazis who hate our existence. We really aren’t that unreasonable when framed like that (ie: correctly). More communities should talk about their transphobic members, it’s good to have that stuff out in the open.

          I also don’t recall any of our current admins or mods specifically talking about db0 outside the context of those threads. Possible I missed it but I’m usually pretty tuned in so.

          In short, it’s funny how annoying we are to basically the entire fediverse when all we do to deserve the hate is “maybe it’s bad to hate trans people” and “maybe genocide is bad.”

          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
            63·
            1 天前

            You don’t seem like you’re very tuned in much if you’ve missed all the rest tbh. It’s been way more and none of it has been transphobic (except of course the usual most uncharitable interpretations of hexbears by which there’s nazi transphobes everywhere.)

            • mendiCAN [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
              173·
              1 天前

              can’t speak for infamous but generally, not being tuned in to the middle-school crap you wade thru by choice daily speaks to a maturity you have not yet been convinced to strive for.

              • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
                61·
                1 天前

                Oh gawds, I really have every random salty hexbear jumping in to reply to me today. Don’t you have anything better to do than perpetuating middle-school crap?

                • mendiCAN [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  144·
                  1 天前

                  its not that youve angered me today db0, what angers me about you —and people like you — is your wasted potential. to have the amount of energy you do (i’m jealous) only to waste all of it on ego-driven pursuits makes me wonder if the two human traits are linked somehow, so often do they overlap.

                  all i can do for solace is prick the soft skin of that over-aired balloon and laugh as you fly around

              • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
                42·
                1 天前

                Indeed, the amount of maldling in hexbear comms about /0 is only exceeded by their pettiness

                • Dirt_Possum [she/her, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  4·
                  17 小时前

                  The amount of projection on display here is astounding. I lurk on hexbear all the time and I almost never see people there even mentioning your silly instance. I do remember one exception when a hb mod was calling for defederation, pointing out how much water you carry for rightwingers and fash with some of your anti-communist screeds, but not only was that like over a year ago, that mod isn’t even around anymore, and I’ve seen no one on hexbear mention your instance once since then(it may happen from time to time but it is rare. However every time I see your name or unruffled pop up in my feed, it is always one of you whinging about those evil tankies on hexbear or the meanie tankes on .ml or how “authoritarian” the tankies on lemmygrad are.

                  I’m not one to “laugh out loud” when I’m reading usually, but your comment above actually made me chuckle a little. It’s just so obviously backwards with reality, how can someone not be embarrassed to say that and so plainly demonstrate how much those ebil tankies live “rent free” in their head?

        • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
          English
          186·
          1 天前

          I mean, you’ve defended straight up Nazi apologia just because it was punching left

    • Nima@leminal.spaceEnglish
      94·
      1 天前

      I normally agree with most of your sentiments, but not this one. if anything it seems the most sodium is coming from you and a couple other commenters in this thread. I hope you know I mean no disrespect.

      I’m not one to defend hexbears. in fact most of the time I’m wary of anyone with that instance username, but in this case I think you’re being a bit unfair.

      I have OP labeled as a troublemaker as I’ve seen him behaving poorly in a few places. swearing at people and calling them tankies just for disagreeing with him, etc.

      I don’t think this is a left/right/hexbear/instance war- thing. it may just plainly be a “not nice” thing.

        • Nima@leminal.spaceEnglish
          102·
          1 天前

          nothing, I just don’t think many of the hex commenters in this thread are being all that salty (which nobody finds more surprising than myself). most seem to have found the thread through normal channels.

          maybe there’s stuff going on behind the scenes that I am not aware of, and I’m wrong. its entirely possible.

          but just from an outsider perspective, it seems most are behaving fairly decently.

          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
            72·
            1 天前

            I know. They just can’t keep themselves away from a good pile-on because in their mind bullying works.

            • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
              English
              136·
              1 天前

              Yeah, how dare they engage with posts that show up on their feed, those bullies. They should let us slander them in our bullying com in peace!.

              You really are a wretched hypocrite, willing to abandon all your claimed principles so long as you can punch left

              • _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                93·
                1 天前

                Oh look, it’s the fucking idiot who called somebody a “Hitler loving pedophile” because they said something mean about communism.

                Idk whose brain it is you have in a box, but you need to start using it for once.

                • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
                  English
                  47·
                  1 天前

                  Oh look, it’s the fucking idiots who said Soviets deserved to die because they didn’t surrender to the Nazis.

                  Idk whose brain it is you have in a box, but you need to start using it for once.

                  Holy shit, we found the least witty loser on earth

                • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
                  English
                  86·
                  1 天前

                  This coming from the guy who’s so angry they’re posting frothing screeds

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      218·
      1 天前

      Weird how they came in here suddenly.

      B-but it was on all of our front pages! Ignore when we post it, link it, screenshot everyone, on our Slop community! Then talk about how much we hate them but don’t do anything to stop getting angry about it on the same community!

      Edit: it keeps happening, wow I’m so shocked.

      Edit 2: on the front page of Slop, users from Hexbear commented and then went to the post being discussed https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/59235577?scrollToComments=true

      “But we don’t do that! Lemme just prove we do!”

      • brain_in_a_box [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        234·
        1 天前

        This hasn’t been posted to slop, you dishonest troll. As ever, you’re just mad that communists are allowed to use the website built by communists

      • CloutAtlas [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        263·
        1 天前

        Didn’t come here from slop or any other comm, it’s genuinely the top for me. Default settings, which are sorted by All & Active.

        Considering we’re not federated with .world, this is probably the most active thread on our federated spaces.

        Edit: also there’s quite a few .zip bots which would have artificially boosted the activity

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          51·
          1 天前

          The zip bots are very odd. I’ve reported them for spam.

          And again, it was not the top when I checked. I concede things may have changed since then, but when I checked while work was slow it wasn’t.

          • CloutAtlas [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            16·
            1 天前

            I think the discrepancy comes from whether or not you’re logged in to an existing Hexbear account.

            I got a screenshot on PC in an incognito window for just visiting Hexbear as a guest (default: Local and Active) vs my default as a user (All and Active, since federation at the very least)

            Ignore the Nvidia pop up, I launched a game in the middle of testing this

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          44·
          1 天前

          I just looked via my page and it’s on page 2. I genuinely wouldn’t know why Lemmy would rank it differently, but I had to scroll and then tap on Next page.

          And whenever I muster the will to go back to Slop I’ll see it, with the dozens of other posts of people complaining about db0 and then doing nothing about it.

          Still doesn’t explain why users feel the need to come in every time something like this happens on db0.

          • Salah [ey/em]@hexbear.net
            225·
            1 天前

            There is a lot of misinformation on lemmy about hexbear so we like set the record straight when people talk shit like you just did. This post is also just weird, it’s clear that OP doesn’t care about the community they were banned in. Lots of lemmy communities ban people who haven’t posted in that com for bigotry, having a bad upvote/downvote ratio or clearly not aligning with the community’s values. I don’t think that’s bad practice because I’d rather see an anticommunist be banned from a communist community from the moment they out themselves as an anticommunist regardless of the community they post in, rather than waiting before they try to antagonise the communist community.

            Also I don’t see this post anywhere in slop, slop consists of mostly twitter screenshots so I’m not sure why you would lie about that.

          • brain_in_a_box [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            135·
            1 天前

            And whenever I muster the will to go back to Slop I’ll see it

            It’s literally not there, you lying scumbag. But I’ve seen enough of your posts to know that you’re perfectly happy to spout deliberate falsehoods, so long as you can punch left

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          54·
          24 小时前

          Hey look, it’s the kind of comment I was talking about. but it was totally on my front page and I had to go in there! I’ve never cared until now!

          Edit: totally normal behavior from Hexbear to upvoted after the comment was removed, right?

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              54·
              1 天前

              If Hexbear hates being called out maybe that’s on them? Weird how no one from Hexbear jumped on the OP’s defense, or any other posts here lately.

              Keep being the guy I was mocking, you aren’t digging your grave more while giving more proof of the thing I was mocking.

                • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  53·
                  1 天前

                  Weird how .world says we’re tankies with Hexbear and Lemmygrad but somehow also Nazis according to Hexbear. Two drastically different ideologies.

                  I’m sure it’s not because anarchists question laws being made to stop people who ask too many questions the state doesn’t like.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
      English
      2115·
      1 天前

      Jesus Christ, you’re really going to look at their behavior and praise it for, essential, “triggering the libs”? You are basically just a right wing chud so long as it’s attacking communists

    • Deceptichum@quokk.auOPEnglish
      134·
      1 天前

      Thanks. I don’t mean to rock the boat so often in your house, it’s just where all the good comms are. Let me know if it’s ever too much and I’ll stop.

  • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    197·
    1 天前

    Amazing display of left unity today by Hexbear.

    We can’t call out bad faith actions and active spamming to tire people out, but they will gladly jump down your throat.

    They can ban people for asking too many questions but if we ban them we aren’t leftists.

    You call them out it’s a tirade and a rant. You give them links to show they have a bias, you’re the bad guy.

    Rules for thee not for me is what Stalin wanted after all, it’s just praxis for them. Can’t wait to see how many are angry at us for not obeying their rules on another instance.

    Blah blah “but muh all” blah blah “post hog” blah blah “you just hate us for causing a mess and cleaning it up”. Hope you guys have jobs and interact with real humans and stop LARPing as the revolutionaries Stalin would have shot when they stopped being useful.

    Amazing how to some we’re the Tankies when we didn’t say Stalin wasnt Christ reborn and we get spammed with it. I come back from work and I have more messages than when I upset someone with a bot farm.

    Left unity my ass. We can’t criticize you but you’ll kill Makhno and say you did us a favor. Can’t wait until Hexbear circlejerks about this and swear this time for real they’ll defed from us.

  • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
    393·
    2 天前

    such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml

    unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community

    Wheeze… More! Do you do standup?

    • frongt@lemmy.zip
      241·
      1 天前

      External users downvoting is considered “vote spamming”. You can check my moderation history, they used that justification for me. I just downvote low-value content as I see it.

    • Deceptichum@quokk.auOPEnglish
      214·
      2 天前

      Can I please get your autograph?

      Yeah I assumed it was that, but it was so poorly worded and completely unwarranted by anything as I’ve never posted so cannot spam or ‘ads’.