could u cite me where the bible does those ? before you go and quote me the old testament, that s the jew book. I dont pretend, i know it wich doesnt seem to be the case for you. You can litteraly proove me wrong by just quoting the most well known book of human history. Shouldn’t be hard ?
before you go and quote me the old testament, that s the jew book.
That’s still part of your holy text. The fact that Christians love to shit on the Jews for their book while being it into their own with the lame copout of ‘bUt JeSuS iNvAlIdAtEd It’ while reading out of it at every mass would be hilarious if they weren’t so oblivious to their hypocrisy.
Edited out the hostility, but this is absolutely still bigotry
Yeah and by the new one we shouldnt support them in their sin but that litteraly doesnt give any right to violence toward them. Doesnt seem like being gay in chritian country is worse than in comunist or muslim one for that matter
Doesnt seem like being gay in chritian country is worse than in comunist or muslim one for that matter
Oh, it’s far worse for gays in those other countries, but that’s only because we’ve held you religious freaks at bay for so long. If you get your way, homosexual activity will be criminalized.
and your were abblt to held them at bays cause ? to me it seem it only was the case cause most chritian dopn’t ressort to violence cause since it s the majority religion where you live i guess it wont be the case it chritian werent tolerant ? right ?.
No, it’s because up until recently, our courts respected the Constitution and the 1st Amendment, and kept religious whack jobs from getting their way. We didn’t have, or lose, abortion because of Christian tolerance, we got/lost it because of the courts.
Look, dude, you are not suitably educated enough to be tossing around gotcha questions. Judging by the fact that you don’t even have the most basic skills to express yourself properly in writing, I doubt that your thinking, logic, and mental processing is any less chaotic. Get educated, and then come back and attempt to debate.
im no americain and tbf you have a worst version of chritianity but tbh it s because your population is dumb af. just go live in a muslim country you r american you shoulddnt die you can go there and express your freedom to shit on stupid books
you seem eager to judge based on something nobody follow. But go ahead tell me what christian does follow that come from that book and you deem bad
I have no idea what it is you’re saying or trying to ask me.
‘Nobody follows’ the old testament is stupid because that’s literally where half the scripture readings in your masses come from.
I can only assume the second part is trying to ask what of the old testament Christians follow? If so, is like to ask where you think the commandments come from. Otherwise, please try again in readable English.
You can’t cherry pick the good from the bad. Either you don’t care about the old testament and you throw out the ten commandments too, or you accept that half of your book is full of horrific shit you want to ignore.
bro christianity litteraly cherry pick what was good or bad and what should be followed after the comming of jesus. U can’t be criticize of that or it s just show u dont know what you r talking about
Oh, I’m not talking about he shit Christianity cherry picked to make their scripture, that’s a while other conversation that doesn’t go well for Christians. You as a follower don’t get to choose what is or is not part of your sacred text, unless you choose heresy and start your own religion.
U can’t be criticize of that or it s just show u dont know what you r talking about
This is why I love/hate arguing with y’all. You don’t know your own book or beliefs we’ll enough to actually argue with someone who took apologetics (studying the religion) to strengthen their faith and it ended up destroying it.
I know the religion better than you think you do, and your understanding is laughable. Thank you for proving you’re ignorant of your own religion and not even worth talking to.
Read your book for once in your life and come back when you can make a rational* argument rather than just telling me U dOnT uNdErStAnD it
You as a follower don’t get to choose what is or is not part of your sacred text, unless you choose heresy and start your own religion.
The church does. Do you even know that religion ?
I know the religion better than you think you do, and your understanding is laughable. Thank you for proving you’re ignorant of your own religion and not even worth talking to.
I havent seen any instance of that.
a relationship argument rather than just telling me U dOnT uNdErStAnD it
Im just gonna say that in christian country or country that historicaly were a majority christian you have the right to criticise it and even moking it. Im just saying compare to country where u will be killed for exercising your freedom the same way is either dishonest or stupid. U dont have to like christianity but you saying it as bas as islam it s shocking
Funny discounting the old testament with antisemitism while Catholicism is absolutely full of doctrine with no basis in either testament at all. Limbo being a notable example, funnily enough, along with the authority and divinity of the Pope/infallibility of the Holy See, the immaculate birth of Mary, canonized saints, etc. But, sure, pretend like half of your holy book doesn’t matter for Catholics and can’t be held against you, but hold every word of the Quran against every Muslim without an ounce of self-awareness.
funnily enough, along with the authority and divinity of the Pope/infallibility of the Holy See, the immaculate birth of Mary, canonized saints, etc.
Funny how all of these are just tenant of the faith and nothing here allow u to mistreat non beliver.
pretend like half of your holy book doesn’t matter for Catholics and can’t be held against you
I only pretend it was before the new testatment wich by jesus word cancel the old one.
but hold every word of the Quran against every Muslim without an ounce of self-awareness.
Omg he criticise an holly book that allow violence and bunch of shit. We atheist are deeply schock that differents religions can be categorize worse than other. Not a once of self awareness. Idk dude jesus didnt marry an 6yo and did military conquest. If u feel thoses are in the same league im just feel your opinion on the matter dont matter
I only pretend it was before the new testatment wich by jesus word cancel the old one.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them” -Jesus
He added to, iterated on, yes, even changed some laws, but he did not “cancel” the old testament.
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I think both books are full of barbarism (with particular emphasis on the old testament in the Bible’s case, though not exclusively) and I don’t respect either one as a guide for morality or way of life. You’re rhe one specifically shitting on the Quran and then pretending half the Bible doesn’t count. Jesus as a model was a pretty good dude and I wish more emulated him. That in no way makes the Bible, as a whole, a good basis for morality. Be like Jesus, book not necessary.
it s cannon but it doesnt hold the same weight. That s why i said that. I can explain to you what s the difference but we keep it simple. yet you can still proove me wrong u have a whole book for that
Right, you effectively reworded your point without addressing anything or supporting your argument in the slightest. I wouldn’t talk shit about reading ability if I were in your shoes. And I’ll be nice and not get into the readability of the content of your post.
That being said, just because you don’t hold it in the same regard as you do the new testament does not invalidate that your religion sees it as part of the holy Scripture, frequently references it in normal courses, and your profit specifically said he didn’t invalidate the previous covenant.
Either way, the old testament is part of your Bible and holds much of the spiritual law used in the religion. Not accepting the barbarism of half your holy text as part of your religion is just pure fucking cope, and laughable as a reformed christian.
I never said the barbarism is justified by the old testament, but it’s literally part of your religion and you can’t hand wave that away because you don’t like the shit the old testament does.
could u cite me where the bible does those ? before you go and quote me the old testament, that s the jew book. I dont pretend, i know it wich doesnt seem to be the case for you. You can litteraly proove me wrong by just quoting the most well known book of human history. Shouldn’t be hard ?
Yikes!
funny how you wont have the same reaction if i say the chirtian book or even the muslim one for that matter
Because they don’t hint at a streak of bigotry, that’s why.
ok ?
That’s still part of your holy text. The fact that Christians love to shit on the Jews for their book while being it into their own with the lame copout of ‘bUt JeSuS iNvAlIdAtEd It’ while reading out of it at every mass would be hilarious if they weren’t so oblivious to their hypocrisy.
Edited out the hostility, but this is absolutely still bigotry
you seem eager to judge based on something nobody follow. But go ahead tell me what christian does follow that come from that book and you deem bad
The entire rationalization for Christian hatred and persecution of gays is derived from the Old Testament, and you guys are devoted to that.
Yeah and by the new one we shouldnt support them in their sin but that litteraly doesnt give any right to violence toward them. Doesnt seem like being gay in chritian country is worse than in comunist or muslim one for that matter
Oh, it’s far worse for gays in those other countries, but that’s only because we’ve held you religious freaks at bay for so long. If you get your way, homosexual activity will be criminalized.
and your were abblt to held them at bays cause ? to me it seem it only was the case cause most chritian dopn’t ressort to violence cause since it s the majority religion where you live i guess it wont be the case it chritian werent tolerant ? right ?.
No, it’s because up until recently, our courts respected the Constitution and the 1st Amendment, and kept religious whack jobs from getting their way. We didn’t have, or lose, abortion because of Christian tolerance, we got/lost it because of the courts.
Look, dude, you are not suitably educated enough to be tossing around gotcha questions. Judging by the fact that you don’t even have the most basic skills to express yourself properly in writing, I doubt that your thinking, logic, and mental processing is any less chaotic. Get educated, and then come back and attempt to debate.
im no americain and tbf you have a worst version of chritianity but tbh it s because your population is dumb af. just go live in a muslim country you r american you shoulddnt die you can go there and express your freedom to shit on stupid books
I have no idea what it is you’re saying or trying to ask me.
‘Nobody follows’ the old testament is stupid because that’s literally where half the scripture readings in your masses come from.
I can only assume the second part is trying to ask what of the old testament Christians follow? If so, is like to ask where you think the commandments come from. Otherwise, please try again in readable English.
Are the 10 commandement bad ? What is bad in Christianity that came from the scripture ?
All il trying to say is that your attempt to compare the incomparable doesn’t hold up
You can’t cherry pick the good from the bad. Either you don’t care about the old testament and you throw out the ten commandments too, or you accept that half of your book is full of horrific shit you want to ignore.
bro christianity litteraly cherry pick what was good or bad and what should be followed after the comming of jesus. U can’t be criticize of that or it s just show u dont know what you r talking about
Oh, I’m not talking about he shit Christianity cherry picked to make their scripture, that’s a while other conversation that doesn’t go well for Christians. You as a follower don’t get to choose what is or is not part of your sacred text, unless you choose heresy and start your own religion.
This is why I love/hate arguing with y’all. You don’t know your own book or beliefs we’ll enough to actually argue with someone who took apologetics (studying the religion) to strengthen their faith and it ended up destroying it.
I know the religion better than you think you do, and your understanding is laughable. Thank you for proving you’re ignorant of your own religion and not even worth talking to.
Read your book for once in your life and come back when you can make a rational* argument rather than just telling me U dOnT uNdErStAnD it
The church does. Do you even know that religion ?
I havent seen any instance of that.
Im just gonna say that in christian country or country that historicaly were a majority christian you have the right to criticise it and even moking it. Im just saying compare to country where u will be killed for exercising your freedom the same way is either dishonest or stupid. U dont have to like christianity but you saying it as bas as islam it s shocking
With all due respect, no. Christians of all stripes quote the old testament ALLLLLLL the time to justify their actions.
Also, ‘the jew book’? Are you trying to sound antisemitic on top of everything else?
Go back to the harbor, sealion. We’re not doing your homework for you.
so u can proove anything ? right i have no ida why reddit atheist became an insult.
No just that the book doesnt hold the same wieght for different beliefs. if it souns anti semitic i t s a you issue.
Funny discounting the old testament with antisemitism while Catholicism is absolutely full of doctrine with no basis in either testament at all. Limbo being a notable example, funnily enough, along with the authority and divinity of the Pope/infallibility of the Holy See, the immaculate birth of Mary, canonized saints, etc. But, sure, pretend like half of your holy book doesn’t matter for Catholics and can’t be held against you, but hold every word of the Quran against every Muslim without an ounce of self-awareness.
Funny how all of these are just tenant of the faith and nothing here allow u to mistreat non beliver.
I only pretend it was before the new testatment wich by jesus word cancel the old one.
Omg he criticise an holly book that allow violence and bunch of shit. We atheist are deeply schock that differents religions can be categorize worse than other. Not a once of self awareness. Idk dude jesus didnt marry an 6yo and did military conquest. If u feel thoses are in the same league im just feel your opinion on the matter dont matter
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them” -Jesus
He added to, iterated on, yes, even changed some laws, but he did not “cancel” the old testament.
I think both books are full of barbarism (with particular emphasis on the old testament in the Bible’s case, though not exclusively) and I don’t respect either one as a guide for morality or way of life. You’re rhe one specifically shitting on the Quran and then pretending half the Bible doesn’t count. Jesus as a model was a pretty good dude and I wish more emulated him. That in no way makes the Bible, as a whole, a good basis for morality. Be like Jesus, book not necessary.
LMAO
Prove me wrong right here in this book, but umm ignore the first half of it, that the church definitely considers canon.
Certainly you can do a better job trolling than that!
it s cannon but it doesnt hold the same weight. That s why i said that. I can explain to you what s the difference but we keep it simple. yet you can still proove me wrong u have a whole book for that
Good job repeating the same thing without addressing anything.
good job not being abble to read
Right, you effectively reworded your point without addressing anything or supporting your argument in the slightest. I wouldn’t talk shit about reading ability if I were in your shoes. And I’ll be nice and not get into the readability of the content of your post.
That being said, just because you don’t hold it in the same regard as you do the new testament does not invalidate that your religion sees it as part of the holy Scripture, frequently references it in normal courses, and your profit specifically said he didn’t invalidate the previous covenant.
Either way, the old testament is part of your Bible and holds much of the spiritual law used in the religion. Not accepting the barbarism of half your holy text as part of your religion is just pure fucking cope, and laughable as a reformed christian.
so what barbarism are justified in chatolicism based on the opld testament ?
Read what I wrote again.
I never said the barbarism is justified by the old testament, but it’s literally part of your religion and you can’t hand wave that away because you don’t like the shit the old testament does.
What part of Christianity is barbaric ?