• socsa@piefed.social
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    13 hours ago

    You can pretty much always reword the sentence to avoid this. It’s kind of always just bad grammar tbh.

    “He wanted to make sure that that window had been closed.”

    “He wanted to ensure that window had been closed.”

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      3 hours ago

      Yes, OP image is legit someone who is just not very good at grammar.

      “I wish you had told me that that was a problem”.

      “I wish you had told me that was a problem”.

      The same subject, object and meaning.

      Speech patterns are flexible and don’t have to precisely follow written grammar. One of the many confusing inticacies of the bastard language we call English.

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      6 hours ago

      Why not just say, “He wanted to make sure the window was closed.”?

      To reword the OP, “All my good faith had no effect on the outcome.”

      To reword the title, “I hate when that happens.”

      Agreed, almost every time this happens, I think someone’s just being lazy or intentional. As a matter of personal preference, I reword sentences to exclude the word “that” altogether whenever possible, so the idea of two consecutive "that"s being unavoidable severly strains my credulity.

      • thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        To reword the OP, “All my good faith had no effect on the outcome.”

        sometimes when telling a story you want to have a different voice, active voice versus passive voice or something. “All the good faith I’d had” hits different than “All my good faith”

        there’s better ways to word this though, while being able to keep the same tone

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      10 hours ago

      I would argue that the grammar is better and clearer in your second example.