Alleged gunman faces nine charges including second-degree murder in New York state case
Luigi Mangione is due to appear in Manhattan state court on Monday for the first day of a potentially weeklong proceeding to weigh the legality of evidence gathered during his arrest after the killing of a prominent healthcare executive.
Mangione was apprehended last December in the murder of senior United HealthCare figure Brian Thompson last December. In addition to state-level charges, he faces a Manhattan federal court case.
Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city triggered an intense manhunt for the killer, but also sparked an outpouring of anger at the practices of the US for-profit healthcare industry. Since his arrest Mangione has attracted some enthusiastic supporters, both online and at his court appearances.
Mangione’s legal team has repeatedly pushed for the exclusion of evidence gathered during his arrest at an Altoona, Pennsylvania, McDonald’s restaurant on 9 December 2024. They have claimed that police, who came to the fast-food eatery based on an anonymous tip, did not immediately apprise Mangione of his constitutional rights.
Mangione’s lawyers have argued that because he was not apprised of his rights, his statements to police should not be permitted in court. They also argue that evidence taken during his arrest should be barred, saying they conducted a “warrantless search” of Mangione’s backpack.
This is the crux of the issue.
Ever since the start I’ve been saying he was a suspect and they were tracking him based off of illegally obtained evidence. The whole tip was BS. Some random person (most likely cop or fed) told a fast food worker there was a reward and to call it in, then just left.
They needed an excuse to say they found a suspect, because they found him illegally. It’s actually standard procedure called “parallel investigation”.
But even if the call holds up, they fucked up all the evidence gathering.
I really think he’ll get off on a technicality and trump will try to jail him anyways keep the wealthy happy
The way I see this going is
Mangione wins his initial case on the issues you highlight.
Theres a big legal slapfight.
Ends up in front of the supreme court.
Trump makes a public statement about how dangerous people like Mangione need to be found guilty and executed.
Shortly after the statement, the Supreme Court abruptly declares Mangione guilty.
Trump holds a public execution within a month. Possibly profiting off it by selling tickets to his billionaire backers.
Jail? The orange turd has been pushing for execution since day 1 of the case.
because they found him illegally
Remind me again on what illegal method(s) were suspected to be used?
I think GP is alleging that the feds used NSA spy shit to locate Mr. Mangione at the Pennsylvania McDonalds through his burner phone.
But… It is a violation of federal law to spy on an American like that. So the feds have not admitted to that. Instead, they manufactured an anonymous tip, based on legally obtained surveillance video from New York, in order to have a legal reasonable suspicion to question Mr. Mangione.
And then the local cops who responded fucked it up anyway by blocking his path of retreat, which is a functional arrest, and then not Mirandizing. And they also searched the backpack before they had any probable cause to do so, and after they had removed it safely away from Mr. Mangione. Without PC, the cops may search the backpack or Mangione for weapons only (the infamous stop and frisk), but they cannot search the backpack insides if they have removed it away from Mangione. The backpack is no longer a threat at that point
NYC is covered with cell snoopers…
Very very accurate snoopers, if he had a cell phone they’d have done that quickly without a warrant. And once they had his number from that, they could track him anywhere.
It’s also one of the highest camera densities in the world, if there wasn’t a phone then they likely tapped into every camera and ran facial recognition, again without a warrant.
But that’s just the stuff we know about. A CEO was shot on the street, that’s too close for the oligarchs so I wouldn’t be surprised if they got the government to use the top secret shit that’s supposed to just be for terrorists. Stuff we couldn’t even think of, but might hear about a decade from now once it’s no longer state of the art.
My man is innocent. Was not even there.
Luigi was with me the whole time.
You’re a liar.
He was balls deep in my wife at the time this supposed murder took place.
Lucky woman.
Confirmed. I saw you watching them bone down while I was peeking through the window. Looked pretty fun, not gonna lie.
Nice house btw, and hot wife. You should be proud.
Sounds like ThePyroPython is your wife
Doesn’t look remotely like the guy in that original mugshot they were flashing around.
He’s so hot, OMG
The only crime here is that he is not my husband
Can someone help me understand? It honestly sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality which to me is fine. I’ve had so many loved ones kicked off health care during terminal diseases and I despise for-profit model of the industry.
But it really seems like he did it, yet I see so many people questioning that. I’m just curious why that is.
Basically it’s people saying:
Prove it
Because the government cant/won’t say how they are so sure it’s him
Couple that with how the wealthy never face consequences in our justice system due to their ability to pay money to lawyers.
And the fact that people want this to be decided by the letter of the law isn’t extreme by any means, it’s literally the point of law. And why people are (rightfully) outraged that they’re trying to include terrorism charges.
It’s just the cops fucked up so much, they’re not going to be able to legally prove anything.
It’s OJ all over again
People are questioning it because the initial CCTV pictures of the murderer do not match Mangione’s features. They look similar enough for it to be pulled in as evidence - and further supported by the items confiscated from him during his arrest, but then again people are questioning the legitimacy of those things too - but the differences are visible enough for even a mid tier lawyer to argue that the CCTV recording is not of their client.
In addition to some alleged incongruity of the evidence, I think a lot of people actually think he did it but they want him to get away with it/don’t think what he did was wrong, and throwing mud in the water is a way to show support for him, albeit a somewhat disingenuous one.
He didn’t do it because I did.
Looks like I’m going to get away with it, too ;)
