• Richie Rich@lemmy.world
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    They should increase the taxes for these: It’s a truck, so the driver needs a driver’s license for a truck (class C1E, CE or whatever) and pay road toll like a truck (Toll Collect) also use parking spots for trucks. If done so, the demand for trucks like these then would significantly decrease.

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      21 hours ago

      Taxes? Just ban them. If you can’t park that shit, it’s not allowed to drive. Same rules in cities in Japan: if you don’t have a parking spot, you can’t buy the car in the first place.

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      24 hours ago

      They are not heavy enough for that. The B class license lets you drive cars that weigh up to 3500 kg. Normal American pickup trucks weigh 3000 kg at most. I think the EU is even planning to increase the weight allowance, so pensioners can drive around in RVs without getting a C1 license.

      You could charge higher tolls for cars above 2000 or even 1500 kg, you could make parking spots that won’t fit almost six meter long pickup trucks, and you could implement higher registration costs for heavy vehicles. There’s a lot of things you can do. But the biggest issue is in my opinion cultural. Most people are size queens. They want everything to be as big as possible. Even their cars.

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          Yes. But then their car will be towed, and they will have to go through the hassle of recovering it and pay a big fine. The point is to make owning a full size pickup truck extremely impractical to discourage people from making them popular here.

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        23 hours ago

        you could make parking spots that won’t fit almost six meter long pickup trucks

        I don’t think the kind of people who drive these would care how much they stick out in front (taking up space of the opposite space, or walking area) or back.

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          Live in the Midwest US, and can confirm. They’ll also throw on a tow bar for the hell of it, even if they don’t know how to drive with one, just for funsies.

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        23 hours ago

        They’re boxy which is an unnecessary and intentional style choice. They could be much more compact for the same hauling performance.

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          It’s an intentional choice, but it’s not for style. The EPA passed regulations in the 90s that demanded a certain level of efficiency from all manufacturers. Sounds great in theory, but the execution was very flawed. The problem is, the regulations allow for less efficiency, based on the size and weight of the vehicle. Well, it’s much easier to engineer a big, heavy vehicle than it is to engineer a more efficient vehicle, so which option do you think most American car companies chose? That amount of bulk allows them to have a lower rated MPG while still remaining “compliant.”

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            No, that’s the size of the truck which is weight and hauling performance. The tall front end in the boxy style is 100% a style choice. You can make it much more compact and still be in the same cafe standard. It’s an SUV type thing about what they’ll expect customers to want.

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            20 hours ago

            This was by design and by detroit lobbyists. Pickups are made around 1950s technology and no consideration for safety, with massive profit margins.

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      no business license? extra taxes! also, limits on how many you can own, because why not? get ahead of that dual-massive-car family nonsense

      I’m not a fan of stuff that disproportionately limits the average person and allows the rich to do something, but in this case, it’s better than nothing

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        23 hours ago

        no business license? extra taxes!

        They already pay $200 a tank for gas. These people will eat newspaper salad before giving up their symbols of toxic masculinity.

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        I absolutely agree! Look how The Netherlands and Danmark are doing it: They push the cars out of the cities with urban development measures, which I absolutely adore! Car drivers should be thrown out of our cities and use public transport instead!