• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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          You won’t get one. Where’s yours? You didnt bring one proving they dont. Since we both dont really know for sure, we should probably just assume they dont care about dieing, right?

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            Since we both dont really know for sure, we should probably just

            suspend judgement on the claim until there is more evidence.

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            we can’t prove a negative. but you are making the claim that requires that they do understand personal mortality, so it is on you to support that claim

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              You made the claim that plants ‘don’t want to be eaten.’

              It is on you to support that claim. You can’t just turn around and pretend you weren’t making your own opinionated claims througut this thread and out the burden of proof on anyone who debates.

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                plants don’t want to be eaten. animals don’t want to be eaten. and the reason for both is the same: we don’t have proof they understand the concept

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                  You should spend more time trying to comprehend the science of things rather than make the bold statements as if they are true.

                  Plants have no ability to say whether they want, or don’t want to be eaten. They have no ability for adversion. They are blind. They have no neurons, no nervous system, no centralized area to process information. Their ‘reactions’ to being cut, like the smell of cut grass, are chemical reactions. Not feelings or desires.

                  Animals, however, have all of this. They are not inherently blind, they have neurons, a nervous system, nociception, a centralized area to process information. Most have amygdala, the ability to process emption, they haveba clear understanding to avoid threats. Why do you think a zebra runs when it sees a lion? Because it thinks it will be cuddled to a nice nap? Given tea?

                  You are all over the place in various comments cherrypicking between what you want and don’t want to argue, and the second you are caught you demand papers proving you are wrong, while you haven’t once provided any substantial evidence to back your claims. You keep begging for peer reviewed sources, yet youve provided NONE in any of your responses to anyone.

                  Good day sir. You don’t have the reading comprehension to have a propeet debate with.

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                    Their ‘reactions’ to being cut, like the smell of cut grass, are chemical reactions. Not feelings or desires.

                    all neurological responses are chemical response. you don’t know if a plant might experience this like emotions