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    They understand it the same way we do.

    if you could point me to the animal cognitive-behaviorist paper that supports this claim, i’d be happy to read it

    I think you are making that up

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        this is not proof that they understand that they, themselves, might die.

        edit: the user who begins responding to me here proffers three studies, none of which actually prove that animals understand that they themselves might die. while they say i haven’t read them, its obvious that it is they who have not read them. it is either that, or they are lying, or they are incapable of understanding what these papers say.

        there is a lot of abuse from this user, so i don’t know if anyone actually wants to go into this thread.

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            this is not proof crows or elephants understand that they, themselves, might die

            it is not evidence at all about the cognitive abilities of turkeys

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              Thanks for replying in such a time that shows you have not read them. It would take near an hour to glide through the sources sent, you replied in a few minutes, and if done, you would see only two were about crows, one was about elephants, and you provided only a personal opinion in response. No peer review from your side? Shall I post the study of chimpanzees next?

              You aren’t looking for peer reviewed sources if youre so quick to denounce them. You hold no credibility over the sources sent. Those are from leading experts. Youre a lemmy user. Big difference.

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                these papers are years-old. I’ve read them.

                they do not consitute proof that any animal understands personal mortality

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                  You’ve read those word for word, years ago? LMAO yeah 9kay buster. Good luck in your sad sad life.

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                  also, your response of the studies are “years old” it is interesting then that they still stand.

                  That means they’ve survived peer review, replication attempts, and scrutiny. That’s how science works bud, evidence stands until disproven. You didn’t read anything in 60 seconds, and you didn’t read it between publish and now. You just don’t like the results.