Ah yes the famous American political powerhouses, the Communists and the checks notes Russian CIA.
tbf, while I think the previous comment was silly, that Trump is in office again suggests the latter may not be quite as much of a nonentity in US politics as I would’ve said in, say, 2015.
Tankies not organizing and voting to then wonder why they have no influence is like not training for a marathon and wondering why you aren’t making it very far.
Makes perfect sense when you realize their goal is to accelerate the complete collapse of the system so that their perfect ideology can rise from the ashes.
The snark from the sidelines is just gravy on top.
I don’t think everyone who talks like that is an accelerationist. Many are just deeply disillusioned, and fuck, I can hardly blame them for being disillusioned.
I just think that particular volley is misaimed. The Dems have plenty of problems - emphasizing the importance of elections - especially considering the conse-fucking-quences of losing the last one we’re seeing right now - is not one of them.
Probably true, I think the “vote blue no matter who” line needs to really die. The messaging needs to be that the vote is against fascism, not in support of the status quo.
I have always understood it to mean voting against fascism using a candidate that has a chance of winning instead of throwing away the vote to a third party due to first past the post.
Or expanded “The only way to stop fascism is to vote blue no matter who in the general election.” Which isn’t a great slogan since some Dems still enable fascists.
True, but they’re not going to vote or offer support anyway. So. fuckem. In their worst case scenario Democrats win and advance the goals of H4A, Green New Deal, and (now) rebuilding everything trump destroyed in six months.
Even more so when Dem turn out is so fucking low compared to the Reps. But at this point, what can even overcome all the voter apathy? If voting against fascism doesn’t do it, I have no idea what will.
Being against the rabid Zionism of the Dem mainstream is based. The second point, not so much.
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I think their point is that they pull the same tactic every year and it’s clear it’s shit
You mean tankies and the FSB right
No, we mean the idiot controlled opposition that is the DNC.
The ones that wouldn’t be rounding up immigrants, kissing putin, and tanking the economy? That idiot controlled opposition?
You do know Obama created the cages kids were being put in and Biden did nothing to stop it from happening even when he became president right?
Nope. Prove it.
Took a 5 second Google search
A TRUMP PRESS RELEASE?
Goddamn, you’re either the driest wit in the universe or a complete moron.
The only true statement in your sentence is about Putin.
Ah yes the famous American political powerhouses, the Communists and the *checks notes* Russian CIA.
What?
tbf, while I think the previous comment was silly, that Trump is in office again suggests the latter may not be quite as much of a nonentity in US politics as I would’ve said in, say, 2015.
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Tankies not organizing and voting to then wonder why they have no influence is like not training for a marathon and wondering why you aren’t making it very far.
Not just tankies, unfortunately.
Makes perfect sense when you realize their goal is to accelerate the complete collapse of the system so that their perfect ideology can rise from the ashes.
The snark from the sidelines is just gravy on top.
I don’t think everyone who talks like that is an accelerationist. Many are just deeply disillusioned, and fuck, I can hardly blame them for being disillusioned.
I just think that particular volley is misaimed. The Dems have plenty of problems - emphasizing the importance of elections - especially considering the conse-fucking-quences of losing the last one we’re seeing right now - is not one of them.
Probably true, I think the “vote blue no matter who” line needs to really die. The messaging needs to be that the vote is against fascism, not in support of the status quo.
I have always understood it to mean voting against fascism using a candidate that has a chance of winning instead of throwing away the vote to a third party due to first past the post.
Or expanded “The only way to stop fascism is to vote blue no matter who in the general election.” Which isn’t a great slogan since some Dems still enable fascists.
Which is what it’s supposed to mean, but MLs and Anarchist’s only seem to hear the “Vote blue” part.
Pretty much anything turned into a slogan loses a significant amount of meaning.
True, but they’re not going to vote or offer support anyway. So. fuckem. In their worst case scenario Democrats win and advance the goals of H4A, Green New Deal, and (now) rebuilding everything trump destroyed in six months.
Love you saying “fuck em”, but I can guarantee they’ll be who you blame when the Dems lose…again
When they do absolutely nothing but shit on all Dems and don’t have the common sense to even go vote, yeah. I will.
Even more so when Dem turn out is so fucking low compared to the Reps. But at this point, what can even overcome all the voter apathy? If voting against fascism doesn’t do it, I have no idea what will.
Putting forward a candidate that stands against genocide and for leftist ideals like M4A, living wages, caps on rent, and government housing.
Stop putting up neolib and you’ll see better turnout.
Fuck’s sake, do you not remember how Bernie performed in 2020?