• Sal@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I like how liberals are always like “Leftists are so powerful that without them the dems lose but so unimportant that we don’t need them”.

    Almost like it’s one of the core tenants of fascism…

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      2 days ago

      You’re twisting yourself into knots. I’m just informing protest-non-voters what they voted for.

      • Sal@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        “You should’ve just voted for genocide!!” is what you’re saying here. Also, there’s more than enough evidence to say the muskrat rigged the election, so even without the protest votes you’d still have won.

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          2 days ago

          Trump was a vote for 10x the genocide, besides all the other fascist stuff he has been doing.

          • Sal@lemmy.world
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            1 day ago

            Again, the election was rigged, so no, it’s not the fault of anyone who didn’t want to vote for a non-solution.

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          Who is “you” in the phrase “you’d still have one”. Pretty obvious the person you’re arguing with isn’t a trump voter

          • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
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            1 day ago

            But the one you just replied to sure sounds like they voted for Trump by proxy.

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            Pretty obvious the person you’re arguing with isn’t a trump voter

            Is that really obvious though? It reads like a troll trying to create pointless division among progressives.

            I always read these people as either political bots or children (or adults, similarly intelligent) spreading a meme created by a political bot.

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                1 day ago

                Textbook DARVO sequencing.

                (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO)

                On top of that, hypersensitivity, projection, victim-role adoption, blame pre-loading.

                While these are effective rhetorical tools for manipulating people, this isn’t how reasonable people engage in conversation.

                If you’re not a bot then you’re a narcissist or have picked up narcissistic behaviors from reading social media arguments and should, as the kids say, touch grass.

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              In fairness I can’t tell now. Good point. I would also dig at people not voting in protest and then complaining about trump being in power, but that is a straw man in isolation and I’ve not specifically come across someone with that opinion

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                Yes, exactly. They use a lot of bad faith arguments, logical fallacies, etc. They’re all just literary devices to amp up the messaging and they all follow roughly the same kind of bad faith argument templates.

                Of course, these could be people. The problem is that they seem to simultaneously be completely ignorant of how reality works while also being an encyclopedia of pop culture political references and grievances. If it’s a person then it fits the ‘chronically online, touch grass please’ stereotype, but there are so many others that argue exactly how it does on the exact same topics across all of social media so I just assume it is a bot or a bot-affected person.

                We know there are information operations that exist to shape public perception that are happening on all social media. This is what it looks like, very hard to tell apart from real people (made even harder by real people mimicking them).

        • kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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          “You should’ve just voted for genocide!!” is what you’re saying here.

          And by refusing to participate they allowed an even worse person to take the helm, and buddy up to Bibi (further than he already was) so he can build another tacky “luxury” resort on the rubble of those genocide victims homes.

          Bravo… 🙄

          • Sal@lemmy.world
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            Or maybe the Dems should’ve actually done something to prevent it from continuing. So yeah, which is it? Are leftist non-votes important enough that those people should’ve voted, or are we so unimportant that appealing to the non-existant “moderate republican” and campaigning with literal war criminals was the actual good choice to win?

            I DID tell people to vote for Kamala, btw. That doesn’t mean I didn’t make fun of her for abandoning us for the favor of Dick Cheney and nevertrumpers. Who still voted for Trump, btw. And that’s not even taking into account the fact the election might have been actually rigged.

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      2 days ago

      they are both strong and weak at the same time, so storng as you must always fight against the enemy, and weak that they cant do anything you want.