Like, I’m probably answering myself here but I think it is pointed out by gatekeepers who can’t stand the idea of community growth and everything should adhere to some other unfound arbitrary way to keep things ‘pure’ in a community.
When they forget that they too, started out as new and that they too probably have had other people sneer at them for simply being new. So now they go around and pretend this is some kind of ultimate shut-down insult to people who’re just trying to contribute to the fediverse by devaluing it by saying “OH U JUST SOME DAY OLD ACCOUNT, NOBODY SHOULD MIND THEM!”.
I have literally never seen anyone make a deal out of an account’s age, until this post.
I have been recently but only people pointing out spam accounts that are only a day old
I use Voyager to access Lemmy, which is heavily based on Apollo for Reddit. And one of the very best things they kept in Voyager is the “New Account Highlightenator”, which adds a baby emoji next to a username, with how many days the account has been active. This disappears after a month (I think it is), but it’s really, really handy for quickly highlighting whether it’s worth paying attention to the shitty opinions being spouted.
Chances are, if it’s a bot or a troll, they’ll be using a new account. If I see shitty opinion + baby emoji, I’ll block and move on.
Other than that, I personally don’t really give a shit how long someone’s been on here. This is my third account on a third server since I first discovered Lemmy a couple of years ago, and I’ve only had this one for a couple of months.
1/3 of Lemmings are bitter losers that have nothing better to do than to belittle people online. 2/3 of them are pretty nice. Ignore the 1/3
Because gatekeeping arseholes gonna gatekeep, I guess?
Because trolls, spammers, and other bad actors will make accounts in mass and use them asap before they get banned.
FYI it’s en masse. It’s French
Unless theyre doing in while in church.
Everyday there’s like 5-10 brand new accounts who quickly spam ~20 articles each and stop the same day.
It looks like someone hoping Lemmy takes off so they can sell aged accounts later.
Which are easy to spot and I get that.
But not everyone is like that and it is quite dumb to assume everyone is like that like I have seen others do. Someone some other person doesn’t like, then they just say “oh that’s a bot, um, ban them because their account is new.”
You saw this shit all the time on Reddit. I mean the behavior can be noticeable from a user who just joined and wants to contribute and talk to those just coming back to repeat everything that got them removed in the first place.
You mentioned in a comment that you have another account. So you aren’t new here, your account is. Not sure why you’re pretending to be new? This is what gives people trust issues.
Also- your comment history isn’t hard to check. No one has said anything to you about being new… unless you’re talking about another new account you have?
it’s a heuristic. evaluating every one-day-old account on its own merits is a lot of mental load, so people take shortcuts. if you’re an active poster, people can look back through your comment history to get context on your perspective. it’s hard to do that with someone using a brand-new account. in a month, nobody will be saying that to you any more.
It’s like the false positive/negative game. If you are an actual person, then waiting a week or two for your account to mature in age is but a mere inconvenience to you. In comparison, keeping all the fresh spam/bot accounts off the platform is much more difficult. So the general consensus is to slightly inconvenience new users in the beginning in favor of having a better community in the longterm.
See for example, @[email protected]. Account is four hours old, 52 articles posted, zero comments/engagement with the community. Will probably be gone by tomorrow.
Just the other day a bot showed up (galacticWaffle) that was making long, engaging comments on pretty much every post on .World. No one would have known it was a bot if it hadn’t been posting an impossible number of comments per minute. A lot of us engaged with it until people started following it around calling it out. Felt bad man.
I think people just need to know that you are a person before they trust you as a new neighbor. The norm lately is for brand new accounts not to be.
Edit: ten hours later, @nehare has been deleted.
Because ban evasion is an everyday occurrence here. Someone gets banned for being a jackass, and 9 times out of 10, they come right back with a brand new account and come in hot with inflammatory posts and a chip on their shoulder.
Or trolls just troll - spin up new accounts over and over and throw out rage bait or whatever their shtick is just to be a dick.
Combined with the fact that the fediverse’s growth has been a bit stagnant lately, when a bunch of new accounts suddenly pop up, they’re rightly met with suspicion until they’ve established themselves as being here with good intentions.
Not saying new accounts should be ostracized, but given the context of the current state of the fediverse, being suspicious of them is warranted.
Can’t speak for others but I take few day-old accounts and their opinions with a grain of salt. Often it happens that it is just a troll to bait other people.
Me too. It didn’t used to be like that, but it is like that now. I used to be excited to see new accounts and it was great like that for a while. Now I’m skeptical and always check their history before interacting with new accounts.
Voyager app shows age of accounts if new, in bright yellow. So when I notice someone new interacting like an articulate human being, I am extra nice to them, and if not, I vigorously ignore it and move on.
how do you vigorously ignore someone?
Read their comment twice and double ignore them xD
I break the fourth wall with my imaginary audience with a really hard Paddington Bear stare, then swipe away, but you do what works for you.
It’s just a quick and dirty rule of thumb that works surprisingly often. If you meet a jedi from Tatooine, it’s a pretty safe to guess that they’re fed up with sand. Same sort of safe guess works with new accounts too.
OP’s account is 1 day old. Bot detected, mods were need a ban! /s
Welcome to the Lemmy!
You misspelled ‘we’ and therefore you’re A.I. You must be banned too. /s
Ignoring the gatekeepers and the people watching for trolls, there’s one other aspect: a lot of people are posting their account anniversaries not to brag, but to celebrate - celebrate leaving the toxic world behind.
I tend to abandon all my online accounts from time to time and make new ones for privacy reasons, and IMO everyone should do the same, together with using different names for every website.
Unfortunately the trend is for people using the same accounts that they made when they were 12 for the rest of their lives.
If people were more conscious about their privacy and pseudo-anonymity then I think there would be less bias against new accounts.
I haven’t seen this on lemmy, but on reddit there are whole communities that you can’t post if you don’t have an old account.
[email protected] block posts from accounts under 10 days old.
