• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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      19 hours ago

      The Christians have been hypocrites for hundreds of years. It’s a cornerstone of their faith at this point.

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        10 hours ago

        Name a more hateful group than Christians

        Oh that’s easy. Any hate group. Proud Boys, Ku Klux Klan, ISIS, etc.

        Certain subsets of Christians are hateful. But there are many Christians out there who aren’t hateful. They understand that the central premise of their faith isn’t about excluding, judging, and power, but rather about inclusivity, forgiveness, and love.

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            55 minutes ago

            Those are all Christians you’ve listed.

            ISIS are Christians?

            But even if they were, they’d still be a group more hateful than the larger body of Christianity.

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              51 minutes ago

              Yup. They sure as shit have all the hallmarks of Christian behavior. You’re about to tell me about their book. Stop.

              Tell us about their actions.

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          There have been entire inquisitions for Christianity. People have been burned at the stake for Christianity. Children have been raped and molested by Christians and then covered up by higher Christian powers. Christians love hating anyone that doesn’t believe in what they believe and will absolutely shun and treat those people with indignity.

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            1 hour ago

            Yeah, horrible things have been done in the name of Christianity. But just like we should not blame all of Islam for the horrific shit that some Muslims do or have done throughout time, we should not blame all of Christianity for the horrific shit that some Christians do or have done throughout time. It’s not productive and only serves to “other” people.

            You said to name a more hateful group than Christianity. A group built on hate is inherently more hateful. Some subsets of Christianity, such as the Westboro Baptist Church, are entirely built on hate and are far more hateful than Christianity as a whole.

            Christians love hating anyone that doesn’t believe in what they believe and will absolutely shun and treat those people with indignity.

            Some Christians, sure.

            Some quadrilaterals have four right angles, but many quadrilaterals aren’t rectangles.

            Absolute statements about a highly fragmented group as though it were a unified whole are erroneous and dangerous. Be intolerant of intolerance, but not of large swaths of people some of whom are intolerant. I know too many generous, kind, progressive, open-minded, charitable Christians to despise the group as a whole, though I freely admit there are large chunks of it that infuriate me.

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              Some Christians may not have had the chance yet to be bad but the majority of them are horrible fucking people. Pretending they’re not is helping no one but the hateful.

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                “Some men may not have had the chance yet to rape women but the majority of them are horrible fucking people. Pretending they’re not is helping no one but the rapists.”

                This is obviously nonsense. Most men are not rapists.

                You can make statements like this about any group you can stereotype. Stereotypes aren’t real. They’re shorthand our brains use to categorize people.

                Try going to an open and affirming church and telling the people there that they’re homophobic because of what the church down the street teaches.

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                  Nah. I was speaking specifically to Christians.

                  Your straw man doesn’t work. Show me a good Christian and I’ll show you a lie.