The Democrats were furious Monday over eight senators who caved to support a deal to end the government shutdown that does not include the Affordable Care Act subsidies their party had spent weeks fighting for.
The offending lawmakers include Democratic Senators Dick Durbin, Tim Kaine, Jacky Rosen, John Fetterman, Catherine Cortez Masto, Maggie Hassan, Jeanne Shaheen, and independent Senator Angus King, who claimed that they’d ensured a Senate vote on extending the tax credits. Their capitulation comes after House Speaker Mike Johnson insisted for weeks that he wouldn’t promise them a vote on anything, and even if he does follow through with a vote, it’s unlikely such a measure will pass the House.
Democratic lawmakers slammed their colleagues for forfeiting health care coverage for an estimated 5.1 million Americans by 2034 and increasing premiums across the marketplace.
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders railed against the deal while speaking before the Senate Sunday. “If this vote succeeds, over 20 million Americans are gonna see at least a doubling in their premiums in the Affordable Care Act,” he said. “For certain groups of people, it will be a tripling and a quadrupling of their premiums. There are people who will now be paying 50 percent of their limited incomes for health care. Does anybody in the world think that makes sense?”
They may have been “protecting” the filibuster. If Republicans removed the filibuster, it would pave the way for Democrats to do the same thing. If Democrats were to lose the excuse of the Republican filibuster stopping them from passing legislation, they’d be forced to reveal that there are many more fucking disingenuous pieces of shit just like Manchin and Sinema ready to tank progressive legislation.
It’s “oops all manchins” as far as I’m concerned,
I don’t think it’s necessarily all Manchin’s but I wouldn’t be surprised if 30-70% were on a Manchin-like spectrum. I’m pretty sure that when most mainstream Democrats champion anything remotely progressive, they don’t really want it to fully succeed (if at all) and would actually vote against the original legislation as written. The supposed champions are depending on Republicans and the open Manchin’s to negotiate it down to something the champions would actually be willing to vote for.
I remember, years ago, Republicans put some extremely unpopular legislation up for a vote as a performative gesture knowing it would receive zero Democrat votes. Then one or maybe a few Democrats strategically voted in favor, knowing it would be catastrophic for the Republicans approval if they actually passed it in a Republican controlled Congress. Suddenly the remaining Republicans were forced to vote against the bill in order to prevent it from passing. I recall it was considered a very ballsy and impressive move from Democratic leadership.
Without the filibuster, the roles could absolutely be reversed… but the bill would be extremely popular and Republicans could show the true nature of the Democratic party as the Democrats purposely tank it to prevent it from actually passing.
That feels like a convenient and simple viewpoint. It must be easy for you.
It’s a conclusion I’ve drawn from decades of behavior. No, it’s not even remotely easy because the people who would crawl over used heroin needles to drink the bilge water from manchin’s houseboat keep gaslighting and employing other methods of abuse against those who disagree with them from the left. There is no one who disagrees with them to the right.
From a functional standpoint, there is no democratic party.
Everyone has decades of experience with human behavior. Yours is no more valuable than anyone else’s, so it’s not a valid support of your argument.
Your opinion is easy because it’s simple and convenient. For people facing harder realities, their opinions will vary, and that’s ok. Those opinions are valid.
Peace and blessings.
There is no argument that supports any criticism of democrats as far as you’re concerned.
Sometimes, things are simple.
“If you have a different opinion from my unconditional worship of the democratic party, it’s because you have it easy, not because your experience is valid.”
I never said your experience was invalid. I’m sorry but whoever trained you in rhetoric missed the mark completely. I’d ask for a refund, assuming you paid for it.
Sure you didn’t. Just that mine’s not worth anything and those of people whose opinions match your own are valid.
I’m sorry centrists think “gaslighting” and “debate” are synonyms.
the republicans removed the filibuster the other day to get a bunch of nominations through. It barely made the news.
https://time.com/7316763/nuclear-option-senate-republicans-trump-nominees/
There are more “low stakes” situations where removing the filibuster has been more or less normalized.
Passing the budget is a different beast altogether.
This is paranoid. Reality is not a giant conspiracy when simple explanations exist.
This is the simple explanation. Corrupt individuals in positions of power using their power to engage in more corruption.
What’s ridiculous are the claims that this is some 4D chess move that will reveal some indeterminate major benefit for us at some indeterminate point in the future. That these people are all good with good intentions simply because they belong to a specific private organization, and that if things appear to contradict this, it’s only because we couldn’t possibly understand their big brain moves. Anyone who’s been paying attention can see right through this farce.
How is “corpo dems are corpo” not simple?
Finally a reasonable response