You left out the part where Jewish people were expelled by many countries for starting a genocide against greeks and Romans in the jewish-roman wars that left the SE rim of the mediterranean almost completely depopulated in many areas. In the midst of those wars anyone who was not Jewish was murdered for their ethnicity, and a new state of Israel was stood up and a end-times messiah proclaimed. It lasted about 2 years. And then Rome marched back in, crushed it, killed the messiah in battle, tore down their temple, and finally banished Jewish leaders from the region and forbade its practice. You make it sound like the Jews of that time were peaceniks simply minding their own business and were banished for no reason. Be honest about history.

Says the zionist-supporting troll hiding under the guise of “devils advocate” who annoys entire threads relentlessly.

Then reddit is an extraordinarily bad place for you to be. And your threatening to kill yourself does not excuse your own actions and words does it.

under 80 years of massive violence and apartheid done by Israelis, you seek to draw equivalence between the two groups?

I also think if there were no Israel, Jewish people would be more likely to be killed.

The self-conjured fear of your own murder made you support actual real mass murder eh. Thats not a reasonable defense of real life murder. Zionists are not acting out of imminent threat, and neither are you. You are just trying to manipulate.

I’m willing to leave voluntarily (or you can just ban me).

Please ban so they cant return. Trusting Voluntarily leaving wont keep them out. Take whatever ban records we can, fingerprint the browser, capture the data so when they try to return they cant.

Well OK, I guess going by knightfox’s logic we’re going to need a revenge porn instance and a pedophilia one too. Also a child murder instance. So we can meet that pure definition of ‘free expression’. They’ll fit right in next to the israeli war crimes instances-- they’re not too different after all. I nominate knightfox to be the mod of all of those. Then I say we defederalize from those and cut knightfox loose to float in the ether till law enforcement can do whats needed.

I don’t have the confidence in my own knowledge to be as absolutist as you are.

We’re pretty far past needing a harvard style debate on whether Zionism is criminal. Thats just a fact and you know it. And if you cant admit that zionism has done unspeakable evil, then I dont think you are being honest about why you’re here.

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You are wrong. Doing nothing is taking the zionist side. ITs an implicit vote for the status quo of tolerating zionist propoganda, which they have plainly stated they will wildly ratchet up the funding of. Lemmy and reddit both are being brigaded by marketing agencies and their bots, funded by zionists. The slippery slope lies in taking no action. Removing zionists from the site is the only moral stand to be taken here. Anything else supports oppression and terrorism.

I think Israel should contiue to exist, and should - given the crimes committed against their citizens by Hamas - be entitled to demand that Hamas play no part in governance of a future Palestinian state.

This does not seem like a reasonable stance to me. There is no peaceful Israel, and zionism is about greed not need. Zionists dont want peace, and zionism is a choice, not an ethnicity. Zionists dont see Palestinians or any other non-jewish person as worthy of basic human rights, as evidenced by their refusal to sign the UN declaration of universal human rights, and their multi-tiered justice system, and their adoption of Israeli basic laws that spell out Jewish supremacy and non-jewish lack of citizenship in lands they control. Their racist supremacy not just an idea, its enshrined in their law, and practiced in their state sponsored, and wildly publicly supported actions.

To support Israel as you do is to support that legally enshrined apartheid, and also who they are now (genociders) and what we all know they will continue to do. They will not change because they fundamentally disagree with the idea of ever changing. Jewish people have another homeland they could have chosen if they really need to rule themselves (a tenuous idea and not a need backed up by facts) called the jewish Autonomous Oblast. Or they are also perfectly safe in the US, or countless countries across the world. There was never a need for a homeland to be in the middle east which was already populated-- just a desire. There was no need for the nakba, which was ethnic cleansing, murder, and terrorism-- nor has zionism admitted that was wrong, or that they will ever make ammends. Balfour stipulated that Jewish settlers would respect the local population and live sperately form them, and zionists unilaterally destroyed that idea with the nakba. There is no redeeming zionism and it is an ongoing crime spree with massive numbers of real victims.

And why should Israel be “entitled” to “demand” a say (your words) in the governance of the Palestinian people they have so brutalized? Palestinians are not your people to make demands of. They are not your subjects or citizens. Your demand is backed by murderous force and war crimes, exercised daily. You display the same desire for brutal reinforcement of your own views that the rest of the zionists do. You should be on your knees begging for forgiveness and reconciliation, not making “demands” that you feel “entitled” to, after innocent Palestinians have suffered a genocide and terrorism at zionist hands. – terrorism which you still openly support, despite your professing to the contrary in your statement.

I think your support for zionisms colonizalism and murder – and your demand to dictate the future of Palestinian governance should disqualify you from remaining on Lemmy, and I find your stance to be appalling and grossly immoral. You cant seperate zionism from terrorism and colonizalism, no matter how well spoken you are. And your demand to dictate the governance of palestine is concrete proof of your not belonging here.

They’re not wrong. This time. Although they assert illegal maritime rules all the time.

The American taxpayers are good for it.

We’re starting to lose faith in every single branch and service of government, which is a dangerous spot to be in. It will mean we allow industry and the rich to gain even more control than they already have.

Miller really leads into the comically evil look.
as to “blatant jury nullification”

Well its not illegal. So he can take “blatant” and shove it up his rear. It should be used more often, considerinbg the shitty state the court system is in and the hand he had in making it so bad. He really needs to shut his stupid piehole.

Agreed. The assertion of imagined power often becomes real power. Not pushing back on fake power is actually ceding the outcome.

Greenland should persona non grata him and deport his arse to el salvador. Landry even dresses like a clown. All he is missing is the clown horn.

We have the tech right now to do direct democracy. We dont need to hope some representitive surfaces our needs someday. Politicians and lobbyists need to be job categories that get eliminated due to tech improvements. Then we wont need political parties either and we can end them entirely. No more dems, no more repubs.

Slotkin will do whatever is best for Israel, every time, as will Schumer.

agreed, the new wedge issues havent dropped yet.
Who knows what they will tell us to think about for this round, so excited.