I can’t think of a more NYT thing to publish. They’re practically a tabloid now.
I’m British so in my head they’re still classy. Where did it go wrong?
This is an op-ed piece, and NYT op-eds have always been godawful. I don’t know why we care about it now, or why we’re only just now using it to criticize the NYTs journalism (which has more than enough to criticize all on it’s own) but that’s where this has come from.
Edit: Not entirely relevant to the first point, but I just went and gave it a listen and… The above piece is fucking embarassing. Really. That they’ve had to change the title three times would seem to indicate they agree. It’s the moderator (an absolute dickhead) and some conservative weirdo refusing to answer a very reasonable and simple question with just utter nonsense. Hopefully the justified backlash to this continues, and they eventually clue in and just take it down. Fucking joke.
You’re a hero listening to that I’d end up chucking my phone across the room. It’s funny NYT always seemed to have a good reputation shame it’s not deserved
Their journalistic reputation is quite deserved - despite many valid criticisms, they do still do incredibly good and important journalism. Their opinion pieces ride the coattails of that work to make them seem like they have any value. I honestly do not think I have ever seen a NYT opinion piece that’s not just absolute garbage.
The idea was to provide a counterpoint to the liberal ‘bias’ inherent to reporting all news - but that idea has long since stopped being reasonable, and it really needs to be just given up on.
imo a lot of their reporting is the best of the mainstream. lemmy users absolutely shit on the paper and they generally make valid points, but there’s a fair bit of “burn them at the stake” carry on. their op-eds tend to be “diverse”, meaning they have total pieces of shit spouting nonsense week by week.
Change your thinking immediately. Every single major news outlet in the US is pushing a corporation’s agenda. I promise. Theyre all owned by billionaires.
Even publicly funded news in the US helped usher in our current state of fascism by softballing it constantly to Americas lowest common denominator.
There are exceptions which are not owned by billionaires, like the AP, NPR, and PBS.
Democracy Now! is solid too
However segments and whole shows on those channels are also often influenced heavily from outside donors. Unfortunately they still take corporate sponsorship. Listening to the shit NPR will spout about the current Palestinian genocide makes me fucking livid. And I used to be a sponsor.
Which one of them opposed a single military action by the US as it was occurring?
You don’t get a platform if you’re not the type to hear “America just invaded/bombed <country>” and the first thing to come to mind is “Were any American soldiers hurt”.
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They’re centrist to a fault and have a tendency to agree with the “official narrative” until it becomes unpopular. They’re so afraid of being seen as partisan any side can sway them by accusing them of being on the other side enough
British? Interesting…
Ngl in my (previous, now) headcannon, you’re like a cyberhippie lady that lives on a farm with a bunch of butterfly lawn ornaments, host your own email server, and carry a shotgun with a big sun hat and a smile. Don’t ask me how my brain got there, I couldn’t tell you even if I tried.
That’s far more interesting than my life, so I’m going to say… yes, that is completely, totally accurate
When they were founded because the other big NY paper’s European correspondent¹ was not fascist enough.
They have been on the wrong side of history, like, every fucking time.
¹Karl something?
So I’m the morbidly curious type and started to read this trash…
Let’s pick one flavor of wokeness, and that is the #MeToo movement.
You hear that language of personal choice, not only on the left with regard to abortion, but for conservatives in opposition to things like SNAP benefits for unmarried women: Well, you chose to have this baby while you were poor
Gross, cruel, regressive.
ESPECIALLY when there are a lot of places where it is explicitly not a choice anymore.
No but see it was her¹ choice to be raped and live somewhere where abortion isn’t legal.
If it was not her choice; she is a frigid bitch and probably a liar.
¹trans men and nb’s do not exist in this setting.
Ladies, is it woke to not get raped?
No no NO, it’s not walk at all. It’s oppressive to accuse men of sexual harassment… you must be getting confused.
Totally skipping over widows and unmarried women without children. It’s so wrong its not even worth picking apart.
Fuck these Zionist rape fetishists.
Here’s more of the saga of their changing headline:
And a response by Pizza Cake comics lol:
That’s fucking brilliant! Best I’ve seen is not nearly as good…
Nah that’s brilliant too and I 100% support it.
Wanna start fucking shit up together? I’ll bring snacks
Yay I’ll pack the molotovs! A picnic by the fire light of the burning patriarchy sounds fantastic!
Sounds like a plan!
Can conservative feminism fix it?
Bahahahahahaha… AWESOME!
Has the concept of women gone too far?
Yes, we must all (de)trans and man up by the end of the week
Women ruined my
boys’ clubworkplace, wahh. Why can’t they stick to the jobs we don’t respect and have a lower salary?Does anyone actually respect newspaper journalists in 2025?
I do, but I’m a nerd about looking into biases/funding/fact checking/etc. There’s as much good stuff as shit and nothing should ever be taken as the god’s honest, but there are people who try real damn hard to get the facts and I respect them for it.
I made a whole com just to post from independent media sources I like.
You’re like a meta-reporter.
I think knowing where your news comes from should be part of reading the news.
It is probably the most important part of reading the news.
I promise I’m trying.
They’re not making it easy, are they?
Nope. I was already getting very cynical about journalists (specifically cynical about “free” in “free press”) when SARS-NCoV2 hit. The subsequent reportage convinced me that journalism was basically dead.
I don’t respect people that don’t respect journalism. Like where do you get information from? You just “doing your own research on the internet?” Or just believing any attractive person the algorithms shove in front of you?
Yeah, believing the nyt, owned by the same assholes as the big slop algorithms, is so much better.
BOTH SIDES!!!
Did an internet influencer tell you to say this, or did you come up with it on your own?
Dunno. I was too busy looking at their tits to remember. Can I ask your pronouns before we continue?
I respect journalism.
I just haven’t seen any in decades. I see instead servicing of narratives.
What the fuck is a feminine vice?
Maybe another name for one of those vibrators with both clit and gspot stimulation?
lol, that would be pretty good!
Yeah, but they do seem pretty inappropriate for most work places. I get not wanting them all over every office.
Like, imagine your boss is trying to explain something to you while she uses one, or the new co-worker you kinda think is cute is using one while they ask you for help with a ‘how is this done here’ type thing.
I learned a technique as a teen that involves crossing my legs in a particular angle and flexing/relaxing my thigh muscles.
Very good way to get through the day relaxed and mild.
But crucially jot noisy or distracting to others. Like music in headphones?
It’s very subtle, yes. My breathing might get a little irregular or I might get slightly flushed.
As opposed to vibrator noise!
Well fair, I suppose. No vices in the office then.
I guess even the nyt can occasionally be reasonable on accident.
Sadly looking upon for on the content of the… podcast apparently? It’s more like expecting equal pay and thinking sexual harassment should be prosecuted, not a novel new toy that women are using to pleasure themselves. :(
Yeah i guess not wanting to be raped at the place I go to not die of exposure is one of my more prominent vices.
Didn’t know that was specifically a femme thing. I know most guys I’ve met also dont like to be raped, like, generally?
Next headline: “Are ‘Lady Problems’ Ruining the Workplace? <subhed> Tampons are Icky</subhed>”
Ewwwwww periods? Ladies, leave the vagina at home!
I’ll be honest, if i could detach mine ii’d hurl it at people
Miami Vice spinoff
Hahahah someone found out the hard way that real life isn’t their incel reddit echo chamber and got in trouble
And i guarantee you they see themselves as a victim cos they were pulled up about it
MaLe LoNLieNeSS EpIDeMIC ….tragic. …in other news EveRYThinG WOmaN FaULT.
Classic NYT
I saw another one called “Did Liberal Feminism Ruin the Workplace?”
Gotta shoe it in there that only liberal feminists are bad, not conservative tradwife feminists.
I think it’s the same article, they just keep renaming it in hopes that people won’t immediately realize how shitty it is
Could be the same, also looks like part of a series on the subject. Either way, I found the content as confusing and stupid as the headlines, and I feel slightly more radicalized.
As moderator I bestow you the award for Comment Of The Day.
Thank you. And I will bestow you with the title of Coolest Mod.
Yay! What lovely news for a Monday morning 😀
The New York Times is a right wing tabloid rag unfit for wiping your ass. Excise it from your lives. You will be better off.
your regular gender war bullshit.
to distract from class war, of course.
This guy is clearly an asshole. I work with great women and fucking shitty women. They’re individuals. Never have I looked at the DNB pulling six figures and producing literally nothing while delegating 95% of their shit and thought “all women” nor have I looked at the superstar who always delivers and thought “all women”.
People are an intersection of multiple spectra, and not a single person could ever define one of their subcategories.
That’s why I hate political correctness. Letting people express their nonsensical shitty opinions openly tells you a lot about them.
*WOMENSSTUFF IS A TRANS+ INCLUSIVE WOMEN ONLY COMMUNITY
New theory: the nyt is an op trying to discredit the concept of journalism.
