• awful_neutral@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    This whole scheme is a farce. It’s the government trying to look like they’re doing something rather than actually doing things like funneling more money into our public schools.

    And let’s be honest, the problem is that the world is on fire and the kids are scared. The internet exposes us to that from a very young age these days, but banning it is only going to force our teenagers into blissful ignorance.

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    I’m split on this because on one hand all these platforms are have a well-known link to poor mental health in teenagers however I think this might be another instance where we are legislating something that should be handled by the parents.

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      On one hand it’s definitely needed, on the other it’s surveillance.

      I don’t think it’s up to the parents because if they were informed enough to make that decision then the kids wouldn’t be on it.

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      Double edged sword. I don’t let my kids on any social media at all and people compare me to Hitler. Then I have to explain how they’re the reason I don’t let them on social media. All that anonymous hate becomes learning material for real world actions and behaviours. Every small child I know that watches unspeakable is arguably a giant asshole.

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        I don’t want it because I want to expose my kid to things early and gradually. My kid as had a tablet since 1. No one would know that if I didn’t tell them. She doesn’t use her tablet as a pacifier because of strong parental controls, boundary enforcement and general parenting. She doesn’t have unlimited access to YouTube because I learned that 30 mins is about all she can handle for short form videos. But we are working on tolerance and personal boundary settings with it. She started at about 10mins a day.

        She’s in elementary and we are slowly dipping into social media. Right now she’s locked into platforms where she can only interact with a white list of people.

        I don’t want the government to scream at me that my way is wrong because shit disengaged parents exist. It’s like at the stuff about screen time. It turns out the one study i read was correct. I don’t harm or hurt as long as it doesn’t replace human interaction.

        Letting it be a free for all at 16 isn’t going to do anything but make it worse because then kids at that age will get no guidance and it’ll just be binging now with less societal care since nothing with be made to onboard children at all.

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        That’s my major concern as an Australian.

        I don’t think there’s any real attempt to protect kids, it’s more about identifying all users on the internet

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          It definitely is, otherwise they could just mandate phone makers institute and effective blocking system in all phones, and then legally enforce that the program be activated on phones bought for minors. They would never have to know any private information, as the phone companies and parents could be held responsible for implementing the system. Plus forcing the companies to develop it themselves prevents fear of having some kind of government controlled blocker that could be abused

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            kids could still use social media on computers and tablets, and there’s no way to stop phones being hand-me-downed or ensure adults don’t just buy phones for their kids as ‘adult’ phones.

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              By that logic theres no way to stop parents from buying their kid alcohol either, however we still have laws against it… kid gets caught drinking underage, then parent gets in trouble. Its not a novel idea of enforcement

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                I’m just saying that embedding software restrictions on phones known to be bought for under 16s isn’t going to be especially effective at stopping them from popping up on social media. It would have some impact, but not substantial.

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    All this news cycles for 18 websites listed so far (And only 9 actually affected)

    Scratch is probably the number 1 site at my school, and there is still no news on if that will be affected or not.

    https://www.esafety.gov.au/

    (Oh. Kick is restricted, but Rumble is available? I looked at the site earlier this week, and the first post was how Trump is saving the day)

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      Rumble, Odyssey, Bitchute, and everything besides Peertube are all full Nazi cesspits. They are filled with the most heinous crap possible.

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    Why can’t the US have this? I mean my kid is 13 and I don’t let him use social media, but like .would be nice if it was just automatic somehow.

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      so you want to provide your ID to various companies to do with whatever they deem fit? to leak said ID? sell it?

      ok, have at it I guess.

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              Do you mean like card details?

              I don’t think that’s comparable to giving your passport or face to every single community website. Moreover, a dog grooming website is presumably not expecting bulk sign-ups and is likely handled by humans.

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      Why become a parent if you don’t care about your children’s well-being? They’re growing up in a different world to what you did and you cannot apply “We didn’t have social media”-thinking on them.

      Teach them about the evil algorithms and let them learn from experience.

      /father to kids aged 13, 10 and 6 with nothing forbidden.

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        This doesn’t make any sense. As an adult I can see the unfiltered internet in comments on social media. There is not age requirement on things and if there is a child can easily just make themselves that she via what year they were born. I don’t need my kid going in tiktok watching half naked people dance around in one video and then see a bunch of children argue about politics in the next. Dude should be outside playing lol

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          should be outside playing

          That’s the “They’re growing up in a different world to what you did” I mentioned

          Enjoy your future relationship with your kids when they realize they’re less prepared for the world than their peers.