“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”
Remember, Remember, the 5th of November
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot;
I see no reason
Why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot
In the German Nazi era there was a event called Kristallnacht where a pogrom against Jews was carried out by the Nazi Party’s Sturmabteilung and Schutzstaffel paramilitary forces. The German authorities looked on without intervening.
Based on this there is this adaptation:Remember, remember
The 9th of November
Broken glass, fire and plot
I know of no reason
Why our very own treason
Should ever be forgot
Really good adaptation and they pulled off the one thing from the comic that I had figured was unadaptable. Props to everyone involved.
p.s. Today is Nov. 5th, I see what you did there. 😉
they pulled off the one thing from the comic that I had figured was unadaptable
What’s that (having not read the comic)?
Evey being imprisoned and communicating via notes with Valerie, the prisoner next door. No spoilers.
That was an extraordinarily good part of an extraordinarily good film.
When I hit that in the comic, my jaw hit the floor and when I heard they were making a movie I was like “Oh, no fucking way they do that, they’ll screw it up somehow…” and they did it.
I remember how the meaning of words began to change. How unfamiliar words like “collateral” and “rendition” became frightening, while things like Norsefire and the Articles of Allegiance became powerful. I remember how “different” became dangerous. I still don’t understand it, why they hate us so much.
The overall message of the film is good. The role model is… questionable at best.
Like Rorschach (or any other character in Watchmen, really), V isn’t supposed to be a role model.
If there’s any role models in the novel or the film they could be inspector Finch or Evie (and in the film Gordon Deitrich), but even they are flawed people, and in Finch’s and Deitrich’s case start as collaborators of the regime.
V? As the title itself indicates, V isn’t fighting for freedom, or justice, or to topple the fascist government. V’s only objective, only reason for being, is vengeance. And not even vengeance against the Norsfire government, but against the specific people who hurt him at Larkhill.
Don’t get me wrong, he clearly doesn’t share Norsefire’s views, especially when it comes to censorship and morality, but at the end, when he’s achieved his objective, he leaves the decision of what to do with England to Evie.
Moore is a great writer, but he does tend to underestimate his readers’ ability to stan for characters he specifically wrote not to be stanned for.
I agree in general, but I was referring to Fawkes. The Gunpowder Plot was a group of religious nuts who wanted to blow people up for God.
Ah, yes, sorry. Good objective (blowing up a king), bad motive.
Does quite fit V, really.
