Based on a sarcastic comment I made a little bit ago but kept thinking about.
For a long time now (before the current AI bubble, even), the majority of stocks traded have been performed by algorithms using machine learning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithmic_trading
Tech companies keep developing AI-powered solutions because it’s a quick way to earn money through stocks. The majority of profit in the stock market right now is coming from AI slop.
https://fortune.com/2025/10/07/ai-bubble-cisco-moment-dotcom-crash-nvidia-jensen-huang-top-analyst/
So, when the majority of stocks being traded are decided by AI, and it just happens that the most profitable investments are likewise boosting AI development, is this essentially AI using the mechanics of capitalism to self-select its own advancement?
That’s a pretty good Black Mirror plot, it would be hilarious. Too bad the current “AI” isn’t even capable of math.
No
self-select its own advancement
It’s a program that writes text, that’s why it’s called a “Large Language Model”; “AI” is just a hype term.
It’s not self-aware, it can’t make arbitrary decisions, and it doesn’t have free will
(PS I’m interpreting “AI” as "LLM"s, since other kind of Machine Learning models have been used for many years before we came up with the LLMs we have today)
The majority of profit is coming from the companies supplying the hardware, not the ai companies themselves.
They’re the ones selling the shovels during a gold rush.
This statement categorically ignores the rampant round-tripping and incestuous deals and that all the big tech players are making these days. They’re spending the same dollar like 20 times and calling it all profit. It’s financial engineering at its worst and most rampant. It’s the .com bubble look like a kindergarten scuffle. The crash is going to be economically cataclysmic.
Most algorithmic trading is not done by AI and won’t be at any time in the near future. Algo trading is primarily used for HFT (high frequency trading) and fundamental trading, both of which AI are terrible for. In the HFT world traders are fighting for fractions of microseconds, so AI is far too slow to be helpful. Trading on fundamentals also won’t work with AI because AI makes frequent (by trading standards) math errors
Things like gradient boosting, supervised + reinforcement learning, NLP (sentiment analysis), etc have been used in algorithmic trading for decades.
Hell, much to the chagrin of statisticians, some people even lump linear regression under the AI umbrella
Also I think you are confusing fundamentals and technicals
You’re correct on fundamentals and technicals, it’s been a while since I took a Financial Mathematics class and I don’t remember doing very well in it regardless
Yes but not with intent, it just does that because line goes up and it’s made to make line go up
It might be in the sense that the algorithm recognizes that it’s a new bubble to dump money into for a quick return. But that’s just what the stock market is nowadays. Corporations have cornered the rest of the markets through conglomeration or monopolistic exploitation, and have cut cost as much as possible. There’s not really a lot of ways to keep line going up other than throwing it into a new bubble and hoping you can get out before it pops.
Investment companies are just running out of places to keep their investments, which is why basically all tech corporations are massively over valued.
that’s where the Fed QE-hyper inflation fiasco comes into play.
the lines will always go up cause inflation amd devalueing the $ forces them up.
until people who actually want to spend $ hunt down that liquidity it will stay locked down on someones imaginary goldpile
people who actually want to spend $ hunt down that liquidity it will stay locked down on someones imaginary goldpile
Can’t do that… That would ruin everything. Just take out a loan against your imaginary goldpile.