• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    So you don’t think food deserts in the US are a real thing? Notice how I’m not American. So how is anyone “excusing their behaviour”? That would mean that either I’d be explaining something about my own life or that I’d be one of those people in the food deserts.

    Neither is happening.

    Probably easy yo emigrate after you got to save up money on easy mode in some developing country where you can still make bank depending on where you work (but on the internet you can work in first world countries without leaving your home), save up and then set yourself up for success.

    It’s easy if someone gives you the resources to actually utilise the best options.

    But the best options are usually the most expensive ones. Like buying a bus ticket for a year. No problem for someone even a tad wealthier, but someone who’s paying rent and living from paycheck to paycheck…?

    Nah.

    Basically you’re one of those people who think poverty is completely avoidable as long as you try hard enough.

    The libertarian clows who I’ve heard that from always seem to fail to explain why young Asian girls don’t rule the world since it’s just about working hard.

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      2 days ago

      First time I emigrated was from a communist country where emigrating was illegal, and food was rationed. So tell me more about this easy mode.

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
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        So you missed the parts where I ask if you doubt the food desert thing being an actual thing, the part where I point out how I’m not excusing anything by talking about food deserts in a country I don’t even live in.

        And you want to make it a dick measuring contest.

        This is why people don’t like you, I think.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_deserts_in_the_United_States

        According to the USDA’s most recent report on food access, as of 2017, approximately 39.5 million people - 12.9% of the US population - lived in low-income and low food access

        You’re essentially blaming at least 40 or so million people to just be making bad choices. As if they could choose to live in crippling poverty under capitalism, and just make the wrong choice?

        Just because you had the room and resources to make sources, doesn’t mean people can suddenly do whatever themselves. Do you know what you don’t need to consider when you’ve decided to leave a country for good, especially when your escaping illegally? Well you get to pretty magically skip all the bureaucracy which would’ve worn you down before putting you in a low income low supermarket access and just wearing you down over years.

        But no yeah tell me again how Asian teenage girls are our overlords, because “hard work makes you rich”?

        • Tja@programming.dev
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          People like me just fine, my work is in fact based on it. I don’t bullshit anyone tho, if someone fucks up I tell it like I see it. The customers I work with appreciate the lack of sugarcoating. Like choosing buying sugar water and complaining about access to healthy nutrition later.

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            So again, just straight up denying / ignoring the issues? No-one should ever bring any problem to the notice of others?

            What sort of a sad world did your live in where the concept of people’s helping each other is so alien to you?

            Once again, I don’t live in the US. I don’t suffer fro food deserts. But they definitely are a thing. You’re just pretending like everyone really has a choice. I’m trying to point out they don’t. With facts. Which you just choose to ignore.

            Yeah, it’s easy making it in this world if you’re a obsessively selfish person who never considers others or what is good and what isn’t. Ludicrously easy.

            But I like to challenge myself, so I’m doing this run with morals enabled.

            I hope you understand that 37% more expensive groceries really does affect a person and their resources.

            Simplify it a bit mire, yeah, I know it’s the only way you can even remotely attack the argument. By simplifying it to the point that you can just pretend it’s about bad personal choices. Well, you see, that’s what the kids call “a strawman”.

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              I think I need to find the meme with the bike, bros out here putting a bar in the wheel by buying drinks with 30% sugar content instead of water, then whining about health when they fall on the ground.

              And then justifying it by coming up with 7 unrelated topics and talking about morals and what not.

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                Oh still playing the “nuh-uh, when I pretend something doesn’t exist, it doesn’t exist”.

                For the umpteenth time, who’s excusing their own behaviour? Because I’m talking about American food deserts, and I’ve never been outside Europe.

                Almost as if you’re pathologically trying to avoid talking about a thing, because you know what a moron you made of yourself by arguing against it, so now you have to pretend it doesn’t exist.

                The only “argument” you have is that the only reason for the existence of food deserts is bad diet choices, completely ignoring any reality about the subject. The reality is that people don’t have access to supermarkets, and have to go into some random ass kiosks for their “groceries” and with the way the economy is set up, that person won’t find anything nutritious or even non-sugar there. They’ll find Coke and Doritos and sweets, everything non-perishable that’s easy for a place like that to sell.

                Those places will rather sell Coke than plain water, because Coke makes more money and we live in capitalism.

                But no yeah, let’s all live in your laa-laa land where you get to choose the problem you have.

                Pic related, it’s you

    • Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Working hard does not work, you have to work smart, use the same cheats the crapitalists do. Never work hard, it’s worthless