• Tja@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    First time I emigrated was from a communist country where emigrating was illegal, and food was rationed. So tell me more about this easy mode.

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      So you missed the parts where I ask if you doubt the food desert thing being an actual thing, the part where I point out how I’m not excusing anything by talking about food deserts in a country I don’t even live in.

      And you want to make it a dick measuring contest.

      This is why people don’t like you, I think.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_deserts_in_the_United_States

      According to the USDA’s most recent report on food access, as of 2017, approximately 39.5 million people - 12.9% of the US population - lived in low-income and low food access

      You’re essentially blaming at least 40 or so million people to just be making bad choices. As if they could choose to live in crippling poverty under capitalism, and just make the wrong choice?

      Just because you had the room and resources to make sources, doesn’t mean people can suddenly do whatever themselves. Do you know what you don’t need to consider when you’ve decided to leave a country for good, especially when your escaping illegally? Well you get to pretty magically skip all the bureaucracy which would’ve worn you down before putting you in a low income low supermarket access and just wearing you down over years.

      But no yeah tell me again how Asian teenage girls are our overlords, because “hard work makes you rich”?

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        People like me just fine, my work is in fact based on it. I don’t bullshit anyone tho, if someone fucks up I tell it like I see it. The customers I work with appreciate the lack of sugarcoating. Like choosing buying sugar water and complaining about access to healthy nutrition later.

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          So again, just straight up denying / ignoring the issues? No-one should ever bring any problem to the notice of others?

          What sort of a sad world did your live in where the concept of people’s helping each other is so alien to you?

          Once again, I don’t live in the US. I don’t suffer fro food deserts. But they definitely are a thing. You’re just pretending like everyone really has a choice. I’m trying to point out they don’t. With facts. Which you just choose to ignore.

          Yeah, it’s easy making it in this world if you’re a obsessively selfish person who never considers others or what is good and what isn’t. Ludicrously easy.

          But I like to challenge myself, so I’m doing this run with morals enabled.

          I hope you understand that 37% more expensive groceries really does affect a person and their resources.

          Simplify it a bit mire, yeah, I know it’s the only way you can even remotely attack the argument. By simplifying it to the point that you can just pretend it’s about bad personal choices. Well, you see, that’s what the kids call “a strawman”.

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            I think I need to find the meme with the bike, bros out here putting a bar in the wheel by buying drinks with 30% sugar content instead of water, then whining about health when they fall on the ground.

            And then justifying it by coming up with 7 unrelated topics and talking about morals and what not.

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              Oh still playing the “nuh-uh, when I pretend something doesn’t exist, it doesn’t exist”.

              For the umpteenth time, who’s excusing their own behaviour? Because I’m talking about American food deserts, and I’ve never been outside Europe.

              Almost as if you’re pathologically trying to avoid talking about a thing, because you know what a moron you made of yourself by arguing against it, so now you have to pretend it doesn’t exist.

              The only “argument” you have is that the only reason for the existence of food deserts is bad diet choices, completely ignoring any reality about the subject. The reality is that people don’t have access to supermarkets, and have to go into some random ass kiosks for their “groceries” and with the way the economy is set up, that person won’t find anything nutritious or even non-sugar there. They’ll find Coke and Doritos and sweets, everything non-perishable that’s easy for a place like that to sell.

              Those places will rather sell Coke than plain water, because Coke makes more money and we live in capitalism.

              But no yeah, let’s all live in your laa-laa land where you get to choose the problem you have.

              Pic related, it’s you