• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    So again, just straight up denying / ignoring the issues? No-one should ever bring any problem to the notice of others?

    What sort of a sad world did your live in where the concept of people’s helping each other is so alien to you?

    Once again, I don’t live in the US. I don’t suffer fro food deserts. But they definitely are a thing. You’re just pretending like everyone really has a choice. I’m trying to point out they don’t. With facts. Which you just choose to ignore.

    Yeah, it’s easy making it in this world if you’re a obsessively selfish person who never considers others or what is good and what isn’t. Ludicrously easy.

    But I like to challenge myself, so I’m doing this run with morals enabled.

    I hope you understand that 37% more expensive groceries really does affect a person and their resources.

    Simplify it a bit mire, yeah, I know it’s the only way you can even remotely attack the argument. By simplifying it to the point that you can just pretend it’s about bad personal choices. Well, you see, that’s what the kids call “a strawman”.

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      I think I need to find the meme with the bike, bros out here putting a bar in the wheel by buying drinks with 30% sugar content instead of water, then whining about health when they fall on the ground.

      And then justifying it by coming up with 7 unrelated topics and talking about morals and what not.

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        Oh still playing the “nuh-uh, when I pretend something doesn’t exist, it doesn’t exist”.

        For the umpteenth time, who’s excusing their own behaviour? Because I’m talking about American food deserts, and I’ve never been outside Europe.

        Almost as if you’re pathologically trying to avoid talking about a thing, because you know what a moron you made of yourself by arguing against it, so now you have to pretend it doesn’t exist.

        The only “argument” you have is that the only reason for the existence of food deserts is bad diet choices, completely ignoring any reality about the subject. The reality is that people don’t have access to supermarkets, and have to go into some random ass kiosks for their “groceries” and with the way the economy is set up, that person won’t find anything nutritious or even non-sugar there. They’ll find Coke and Doritos and sweets, everything non-perishable that’s easy for a place like that to sell.

        Those places will rather sell Coke than plain water, because Coke makes more money and we live in capitalism.

        But no yeah, let’s all live in your laa-laa land where you get to choose the problem you have.

        Pic related, it’s you

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            Oh no way, you’re still pretending to argue the thing that everyone can see you have literally no arguments for?

            You’re one of those people, huh.

            Can’t accept reality, can’t accept you make mistakes. Pfff. “Sad”, as the American president would say.

            Food deserts are a thing which you’re trying to pretend only exists because of bad diet choices. That is ridiculously childish of a view, which is very easy to disprove to anyone who isn’t acting like a two-year old having a tantrum.

            A food desert is an area that has limited access to fresh food.[2][3][4]

            [2]“The Community for Science-Based Nutrition | American Nutrition Association”. americannutritionassociation.org. Archived from the original on October 5, 2018. Retrieved November 17, 2017.

            [3]Story, Mary; Kaphingst, Karen M.; Robinson-O’Brien, Ramona; Glanz, Karen (2008). “Creating healthy food and eating environments: policy and environmental approaches”. Annual Review of Public Health. 29: 253–272. doi:10.1146/annurev.publhealth.29.020907.090926. ISSN 0163-7525. PMID 18031223.

            [4]“Food, Conservation, and Energy Act of 2008, 110th Cong, 2nd Sess, HR 6124, Title VII” (PDF). Archived (PDF) from the original on June 23, 2018. Retrieved November 17, 2017.

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              Never made that argument, but cool story. My point is: if you chose to buy a sugar drink don’t blame food deserts, the weather, the government, or Jupiter for your access to healthy food. Even when you have access you don’t choose it, so that’s obviously not the problem.

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                Jesus you are thick of skull.

                A person who doesn’t have access to good tap water and may not have anything but small convenience stores near him doesn’t necessarily have access to actual regular water, because that’s not a good product for small convenience stores to have, as the profit margins are too small.

                You don’t understand commerce, you don’t understand business, you don’t understand economy, hell, you don’t even understand English.

                You can have your childish tantrum all you want but everyone here knows you’re utterly wrong, even you.

                I know you don’t understand English, but once again, no-one is blaming anyone or excusing anything. Because I, a person who has never been in the US, is just talking about a societal phenomena that’s pretty promo prominent in, but not limited to, the US.

                Oh sorry, that’s me “writing an essay” again and you won’t be able to keep up. :((((

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                  Sure, convenience stores don’t have water… Tell me the one about Cinderella next.

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                    Lots of them do not stack plain bottled water. You may get vitamin waters and fizzy sugar free “health drinks”, but yes, convenience stores are limited in size and in capitalism, convenience stores are not for charity. The better the profit the more likely you are to stack that product.

                    Coke is profitable, bottled water less so. It’s common enough nowadays, but like I showed you, your ideas of what sort is sold and at what prices are downright schizophrenic.

                    Remember when you cried that no 1e bottles exist? But I showed you that even my nearest store here in Finland, which again, Finland = Not the place with food deserts.