Thursday marks the 30th day of the federal government shutdown and the American public has grown more concerned about the shutdown throughout the month and more disapprove of how Donald Trump is handling the federal government, according to an ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll conducted using Ipsos’ KnowledgePanel.

More Americans blame Trump and the Republicans in Congress than the Democrats for the shutdown, the poll finds.

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    10 hours ago

    the Democrats have the same goal of neutering Congress and having a President-King.

    This is completely untrue. Democrats LOVE to prove that they respect the peaceful transition of power so much, that it feels like they like to lose, just to prove what good losers they are, and show Republicans how it’s done.

    And Republicans be like: Fuck you, we’re taking it, whether you like it or not.

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      IMO, the Democratic leadership is opposed to having a king, for a simple reason: deniable plausibility. By having many different yet anonymous fingers in the pie of power, elites get to set policy and make deals without suffering consequences.

      This is opposite to the GOP style, which uses blatant aggression to simply break stuff and loot openly. The important critters of both parties suck, it is just that one steals things when you aren’t looking, and won’t break your nose.

      I hope that if things are settled positively, that we get rid of First Past the Post voting. It is political inbreeding, and our parties have become Hapsburgs.

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      I simply meant that Democrats also want power concentrated in the Executive branch. I wasn’t referring to transfer of power.

      Though, if prosecuting your political opponents after each transfer of power becomes normalized, just you watch the Dems embrace lifelong presidencies as well.

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        The Dems have never done ANYTHING that could be interpreted as “concentrating power in the Executive Branch.”

        Cite one source/example.

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            In modern times (Post-WWII), not one president has attempted to consolidate power in the comprehensive way that MAGA is attempting. It is unprecedented, and it is disingenuous to equate occasional instances of political overreach with the systematic dismantling of our entire political and economic infrastructure.

            Either stop making excuses for MAGA traitors, or admit that you are a traitor yourself.

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              Not once have I made excuses for MAGA. And I explicitly said that Republicans are worse than Dems and that Trump is uniquely bad (maybe in a different sub-thread from this one - it’s hard to tell with all the ignorant hate that came my way in this post). But you clearly have no interest in responding to what I actually say - you only want to attack the caricature of me that you’ve built in your head.

              So I’ll offer you an ultimatum analogous to the one you offered me: stop pretending that only one party in America is fascist or admit that you’re a fascist yourself.