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Rose@piefed.social to Programmer Humor@programming.devEnglish · 13 hours ago

Ancient IBM wisdom (from 1979) that the bosses just straight up promptly forgot

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Ancient IBM wisdom (from 1979) that the bosses just straight up promptly forgot

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Rose@piefed.social to Programmer Humor@programming.devEnglish · 13 hours ago
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Apparently a page from an internal IBM training manual. Some further attempts at source it

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  • FishFace@piefed.social
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    This is sad, not humorous

  • Salvo@aussie.zone
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    Managers aren’t being held accountable for their management decisions either.

    “Oh, I sacked our entire workforce and sold all the company assets, so the figures will look amazing this month.”

    <one month later>

    “Oh, the figures are down this month, a golden handshake!? Thank you very much.”

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    And when computers make all management decisions, let us not forget that managers told them to do so, lest we forget whom to hold accountable.

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      You know shit only flows downhill right?

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          I think what they meant is nobody in management cares if someone wants to hold them accountable

          Bit it’s a nice picture, yeah

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    Ah, from back when people still had critical thinking faculties in good working order.

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      Back when tech is still dominated by hippies and not fascists.

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        This is as good an excuse as any to break out the ol’ IBM corporate songbook

        Tech has always been suits at the top, hippies at best an annoying necessity because they know how to actually operate the machine.

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        I have bad news about IBM’s past as regards fascists.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

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          At the time the computers were kinda newfangled and they tolerated some hippies over there in research.

          The business part, well, yeah.

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        That’s not how you would describe IBM at any point in its existence.

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        IBM in 1979 was the polar opposite of hippie or liberal. You’re thinking of later, younger outfits, Pirates of Silicon Valley types. IBM was white shirt, black tie, solidly stuck in their ways.

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    Reminds me of Woz’s old saying “Never trust a computer you can’t throw out a window.”

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      That became easier with phones huh.

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        Yes, really easy to throw cloud out the window

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          With clouds it’s easy, they are already outside the windows.

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    promptly

    Very meta

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    Thou shall not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.

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      Try to stop me.

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    I can only assume the very next slide said, “But having a computer make battlefield targeting decisions is A-OK!” /s

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      It’s just a little war crimes, it’s ok it’s ok.

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    Let’s be honest though, most managers, maybe ~60% could be replaced by AI. If you want evidence, think of anyone who goes to meetings, and those who go to meetings all day element 90% of meetings, at minimal. Those jobs shouldn’t exist. They are what people like Bezos/Musk believe should not exist.

    Now, how does one get from being nothing, and never being in meetings to being someone making money… You can’t, unless you know someone. AI is an “American Dream” killer

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      Well that’s the exact reason these people are so horny for AI.

      https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-era-of-the-business-idiot/

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    Sorry can’t hear you as AI brrs over hiring applications and performance reviews

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    Again, weapons without human in the loop needs to be against the Geneva convention, yesterday. Or articles of war , something. This is a tractable problem, that needs attention, now, It will not end well and can actually be (mostly, by honorable armies) fixed.

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    Until Skynet happens.

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    A computer can 100% be held accountable. Someone made the decision to put a computer in charge. That person is 100% responsible.

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      Unless that person leaves and the system they implemented remains

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        Keep going up and up the chain of command. There is no situation where no one us responsible.

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        the VP accepted the risk

        Ok, and you fired him, and the replacement… did they accept all the risk too?

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          If they accepted the job, absolutely yes. ignorantia juris non excusat.

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        Someone should take responsibility. If they don’t want to be responsible, they should not take the job.

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          That’s how it should be, not how it is

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