• rafoix@lemmy.zip
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    18 hours ago

    A computer can 100% be held accountable. Someone made the decision to put a computer in charge. That person is 100% responsible.

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        16 hours ago

        Keep going up and up the chain of command. There is no situation where no one us responsible.

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            6 hours ago

            Well, yes, except not for executives because they’re special. And they have golden parachutes.

            But wow if I was to take over some of the VP roles I’ve seen with the risk they accept, there would be years of work just patching shit.

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              4 hours ago

              No, they absolutely are accountable - theoretically, owners (capitalist mostly) made sure of that, they (SB) hold CEO by their private parts very firmly & they could do a lot to them & even even directly to their personal wealth (in most countries that’s the standard agreement that can be enforced via courts if need be).

              But shareholders do what’s best for them & their pov.
              So if someone embezzled & they don’t see a clear way to get the money back even paying half a golden parachute can make sense to them (they don’t get extra work, the matter is closed immediately, and CEOs don’t really get paid that much in the context of company/shareholders profits … it’s a different world where CEOs are mere workers and actual workers are factory equipment).

              So, CEO are accountable, they just don’t often get held accountable bcs it’s never to, for, or by the public (and pubic values, common morals, etc).

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                4 hours ago

                That’s true, and but the part

                they just don’t often get held accountable bcs it’s never to, for, or by the public (and pubic values, common morals, etc).

                Is the “special” part of it. If they were held accountable by their peers, their peers might also be held accountable. Class solidarity in action.

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                  2 hours ago

                  CEOs get held accountable by the SB, the whole point of having a MB is to let them deal with the pleb (“peers”). Shareholders are not the peers of CEOs, it’s a master & dog situation.

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        18 hours ago

        Someone should take responsibility. If they don’t want to be responsible, they should not take the job.